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BakoSaint 05-20-2025 07:38 PM

Re: Derek Carr Retires
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1009934)
Uh, you are aware that "fans" are not required, nor allowed, to be privy to any player's medical issues outside of the active season, right? Probably not, given your accuracy, or total lack thereof, on this issue to the present. The only reason any medical issues can be shared during the season are CBA requirements through negotiated agreements waiving HIPAA guidelines.

The Saints hid nothing that any other team did not share about their players. The Saints did exactly what was required according to NFL CBA guidelines. Nothing more and nothing less.

Take your goofy assed conspiracy theories back to your IHateLoomis.com website and share them with your extensive following.

:rolleyes:

HIPAA applies to healthcare providers not to the Saints. Tons of teams provide tons of injury updates during the offseason. The Saints did not simply fail to provide injury updates on Carr during the offseason and the Saints have provided many in the past, instead the Saints provided affirmative statements indicating Carr's recovery was going well, declaring they expected him to be their starting QB for the 2025 season. The law doesn't require teams to be silent on players injury outlook in the offseason, and the problem wasn't that the Saints were silent, its that they actively told lies to cover up the truth.

AsylumGuido 05-21-2025 07:44 AM

Re: Derek Carr Retires
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1009937)
HIPAA applies to healthcare providers not to the Saints. Tons of teams provide tons of injury updates during the offseason. The Saints did not simply fail to provide injury updates on Carr during the offseason and the Saints have provided many in the past, instead the Saints provided affirmative statements indicating Carr's recovery was going well, declaring they expected him to be their starting QB for the 2025 season. The law doesn't require teams to be silent on players injury outlook in the offseason, and the problem wasn't that the Saints were silent, its that they actively told lies to cover up the truth.

Wrong, Bako. HIPAA absolutely DOES apply to employers that maintain self-administered health plans such as NFL teams.

The Saints hid nothing from the public that they were obliged to share. They did verify info once Carr went public himself. Besides, the injury that contributed to Carr's decision to retire, according to Carr himself, was not discovered until after he began training for the new season. It was not known until he began throwing well after the end of last season.

But don't let accuracy stand in the way of your hatred of the Saints front office.

:bng:

SmashMouth 05-21-2025 08:14 AM

Re: Derek Carr Retires
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1009937)
HIPAA applies to healthcare providers not to the Saints. Tons of teams provide tons of injury updates during the offseason. The Saints did not simply fail to provide injury updates on Carr during the offseason and the Saints have provided many in the past, instead the Saints provided affirmative statements indicating Carr's recovery was going well, declaring they expected him to be their starting QB for the 2025 season. The law doesn't require teams to be silent on players injury outlook in the offseason, and the problem wasn't that the Saints were silent, its that they actively told lies to cover up the truth.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1009944)
Wrong, Bako. HIPAA absolutely DOES apply to employers that maintain self-administered health plans such as NFL teams.

The Saints hid nothing from the public that they were obliged to share. They did verify info once Carr went public himself. Besides, the injury that contributed to Carr's decision to retire, according to Carr himself, was not discovered until after he began training for the new season. It was not known until he began throwing well after the end of last season.

But don't let accuracy stand in the way of your hatred of the Saints front office.

:bng:

HIPAA, HIPAA, HIPAA ... Will we ever hear leaked Derek Carr's visits to his gynecologist? Would that be an undisclosed reason for his retirement?

AsylumGuido 05-21-2025 08:18 AM

Re: Derek Carr Retires
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1009945)
HIPAA, HIPAA, HIPAA ... Will we ever hear leaked Derek Carr's visits to his gynecologist? Would that be an undisclosed reason for his retirement?

I'm sure the only visit Carr made to a gynecologist would have been related to his wife's pregnancy and miscarriage.

jnormand 05-21-2025 09:19 AM

Re: Derek Carr Retires
 
Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

iceshack149 05-21-2025 09:28 AM

Re: Derek Carr Retires
 
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 1009947)
Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

Brother, I'm starving for conversation on our beloved forum. I'm with you, though. This petty back and forth stuff doesn't do it for me. :beer:

neugey 05-21-2025 09:41 AM

Re: Derek Carr Retires
 
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 1009947)
Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

Agreed! We're not likely to get the honest truth on the Carr saga and at this point it is what it is.

Aside from still having our goober GM in Loomis, we can begin anew with new coaches and an updated roster for 2025-2026 and see where things land.

AsylumGuido 05-21-2025 10:21 AM

Re: Derek Carr Retires
 
Sorry, but everything Bako posts turns into an indictment of the Saints organization. It's just difficult for me to leave that unaddressed. But, I agree, Carr is gone and it's time to move on and quit dwelling upon his time here.

SmashMouth 05-21-2025 10:30 AM

Re: Derek Carr Retires
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1009945)
HIPAA, HIPAA, HIPAA ... Will we ever hear leaked Derek Carr's visits to his gynecologist? Would that be an undisclosed reason for his retirement?

I am so sorry the joke went over everyone's head. I'll still leave it there in case someone figured it out .

K Major 05-21-2025 11:12 AM

Re: Derek Carr Retires
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 1009947)
Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

+10 Jnormand

Carmax is long gone. Bye.

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