Correcting the offense

hagan714 · 01-11-2006, 11:38 AM

How is Joe's contract structured to allow us an out before it's third year without getting burned?

TheDeuce · 01-11-2006, 11:52 AM

lord knows we dont need depth at a skill position with an oft. injured starter.....

Lord knows we don't need a STARTING QB, LB, DT, or CB instead of a BACKUP or at best ROTATING RB. This is getting ridiculous. What's so hard about understanding that we have holes in our STARTING lineup more pressing than our BACKUP RB needs?

pakowitz · 01-11-2006, 11:56 AM

well if u have been listening from the beginning... ive been saying draft young if the texans draft bush.. but if they draft young then i want us to draft bush....how hard is that....

AllSaints · 01-11-2006, 12:04 PM

I like Joe he just had a bad year dang next year the PRO BOWL JOE will be out Stallworth Henderson Horn whooooooo Leinart will be havin some choices i do want leinart to make Stallworth his #1 guy..

saintswhodi · 01-11-2006, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

How is Joe's contract structured to allow us an out before it's third year without getting burned?

I believe the majority of Joe's money is in salary instead of bonuses. He got a nice chunk last year. It's kinda like Brooks' contract is currently. Brooks is scheduled to make 6 something mil this year, but we can cut him with about no cap hit cause it's all in salary, which isn't guaranteed, as opposed to bonuses, which we have already paid him. Joe's contract is more salary than bonus.

hagan714 · 01-11-2006, 12:10 PM

What do we do to improve the line? or do watch them get hammered like, Brooks and Duce, or Carr and Davis, or Brett and all the GB RB, or ect. ect.ect...
How can we get both spending that kind of $$$$$$ In the first?
Trade/cut who?
$$$$$$ for Bentley or do we loss him?
It's all nice but how do we do it with in Tommy Boys guide lines?
He wont take the butchers word for it and he is still putting his head up the bulls ass to get a look for a quality cut of beef.

saintswhodi · 01-11-2006, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

well if u have been listening from the beginning... ive been saying draft young if the texans draft bush.. but if they draft young then i want us to draft bush....how hard is that....

So if we take a QB, take one that has been in a spread option shotgun system, which NO NFL TEAM RUNS, and wait for3 years for him to develop, with no veteranin front of him, instead of taking a QB who is NFL ready NOW.

Take a guy, who will not be able to run on NFL defenses like he did on college defenses, and who has barely ever taken a snap from under center? Christ almighty I am glad you don't hold a front office position with this team.

hagan714 · 01-11-2006, 12:13 PM

Thanks Whodi. that does make me feel a bit warm and fuzzy.
sorry just a stray head rush

hagan714 · 01-11-2006, 12:14 PM

hey whodi Sounds like he does work in the front office to me

Euphoria · 01-11-2006, 12:16 PM

You're not going to fix the O line with one pick. You take Young if he falls to 2 or Bush then you address the line and WR along with the D. Fellas you have 2 options here 1. REBUILD drafting Young means you are rebuilding and honestly that is EXACTLY what we need. 2. Getting Bush means keeping brooks and Deuce and revamping the line and D.

01-11-2006, 11:52 AM	#12
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01-11-2006, 12:09 PM	#15
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by hagan714 How is Joe's contract structured to allow us an out before it's third year without getting burned? I believe the majority of Joe's money is in salary instead of bonuses. He got a nice chunk last year. It's kinda like Brooks' contract is currently. Brooks is scheduled to make 6 something mil this year, but we can cut him with about no cap hit cause it's all in salary, which isn't guaranteed, as opposed to bonuses, which we have already paid him. Joe's contract is more salary than bonus.

01-11-2006, 12:10 PM	#16
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	What do we do to improve the line? or do watch them get hammered like, Brooks and Duce, or Carr and Davis, or Brett and all the GB RB, or ect. ect.ect... How can we get both spending that kind of $$$$$$ In the first? Trade/cut who? $$$$$$ for Bentley or do we loss him? It's all nice but how do we do it with in Tommy Boys guide lines? He wont take the butchers word for it and he is still putting his head up the bulls ass to get a look for a quality cut of beef.
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01-11-2006, 12:11 PM	#17
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by pakowitz well if u have been listening from the beginning... ive been saying draft young if the texans draft bush.. but if they draft young then i want us to draft bush....how hard is that.... So if we take a QB, take one that has been in a spread option shotgun system, which NO NFL TEAM RUNS, and wait for3 years for him to develop, with no veteranin front of him, instead of taking a QB who is NFL ready NOW. Take a guy, who will not be able to run on NFL defenses like he did on college defenses, and who has barely ever taken a snap from under center? Christ almighty I am glad you don't hold a front office position with this team.

01-11-2006, 11:38 AM	#11
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01-11-2006, 11:56 AM	#13
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	well if u have been listening from the beginning... ive been saying draft young if the texans draft bush.. but if they draft young then i want us to draft bush....how hard is that....

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AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	I like Joe he just had a bad year dang next year the PRO BOWL JOE will be out Stallworth Henderson Horn whooooooo Leinart will be havin some choices i do want leinart to make Stallworth his #1 guy..

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Thanks Whodi. that does make me feel a bit warm and fuzzy. sorry just a stray head rush

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	hey whodi Sounds like he does work in the front office to me

01-11-2006, 12:16 PM	#20
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	You're not going to fix the O line with one pick. You take Young if he falls to 2 or Bush then you address the line and WR along with the D. Fellas you have 2 options here 1. REBUILD drafting Young means you are rebuilding and honestly that is EXACTLY what we need. 2. Getting Bush means keeping brooks and Deuce and revamping the line and D.