Good Idea?

fhs623 · 02-17-2006, 09:02 PM

I know many of yall think the saints should go qb, but if they trade down and select a linebacker with their first two picks? I klnow we have alot of needs, but I think the saints should address their needs of qb, OL, and DT through free agency.

D_it_up · 02-17-2006, 10:56 PM

The only problem I see with that is exactly how many free agents will really be eager to sign with the Saints with the insanity that is Tom Benson? I think they should make a few trades of some of their players to acquire draft picks and build for the future.

BJSim · 02-17-2006, 11:28 PM

The problem with picking up players in free agency and only having 10+/- million is you have to be really selective. And D_it_up2 is right, how many guys will want to come to this city right now? It's going to be multitudes worse than when Philly couldn't get anyone because their facilities were so bad (pre Nova-Care Center & Lincoln Financail Feild). The Dome is still in shambles, the pre-season will be held in various cities, and who knows if the team will be here in 2-3 year much less next.

Go with a drafted QB you know you can sign for 4-6 years and look to fill holes with "Journeymen" players through FA. Hopefully the coaching staff can get the most from those still here and convince the front office to make a few gutsy calls with FA talent.

hagan714 · 02-18-2006, 11:44 AM

trade down and package players and picks to move up in the draft is the way to go. come on time to do some wheeling and dealing in day one

jergensl · 02-18-2006, 06:14 PM

i love when people say we should trade down to "build for the future." is taking a franchise qb that is more ready to start on an nfl team than any other prospect in years not building for the future?

drafting leinart would show everyone in the nfl community(including fans of all teams) that the saints are finally serious about winning. passing up on such a hot prospect would be a huge mistake.

TheDeuce · 02-18-2006, 06:49 PM

i love when people say we should trade down to "build for the future." is taking a franchise qb that is more ready to start on an nfl team than any other prospect in years not building for the future?

drafting leinart would show everyone in the nfl community(including fans of all teams) that the saints are finally serious about winning. passing up on such a hot prospect would be a huge mistake

Couldn't have said it better. A guy like Matt Leinart is not someone who comes around in every draft (see 2005 NFL draft). Drafting a franchise QB, which is what Leinart will be, is the best step the Saints can take right now.

ScottyRo · 02-18-2006, 07:49 PM

Additionally, what many people seem to forget (or not believe) is that a potential franchise QB is worth the risk of a #2 pick when the risk for a high-pick LB is not. Neither is guaranteed to make it in the NFL. However, if any player the Saints draft will become a great player at his position, I'd rather have the QB. I just don't see how people can realistically pass on getting the type of QB that Leinart might turn out to be.

I know as well as anyone that there are Ryan Leafs out there. But I'd rather be San Diego and say that we took a chance on a guy rather than a San Diego that passed on him and seen him do well elsewhere.

CheramieIII · 02-18-2006, 08:52 PM

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i love when people say we should trade down to "build for the future." is taking a franchise qb that is more ready to start on an nfl team than any other prospect in years not building for the future?

drafting leinart would show everyone in the nfl community(including fans of all teams) that the saints are finally serious about winning. passing up on such a hot prospect would be a huge mistake

Couldn't have said it better. A guy like Matt Leinart is not someone who comes around in every draft (see 2005 NFL draft). Drafting a franchise QB, which is what Leinart will be, is the best step the Saints can take right now.

I will keep saying this until someone listens, Leinart will not contribute immediately to the organization which is what needs to happen for the Saints to remain viable in New Orleans. They need to win games next year not the year after or the year after that. If it were any other year I would draft Leinart it just so happens that the Saints future hinges on players who can contribute now and Leinart is not that player.

ScottyRo · 02-19-2006, 10:11 AM

I will keep saying this until someone listens, Leinart will not contribute immediately to the organization which is what needs to happen for the Saints to remain viable in New Orleans.

I'll say this again too and maybe someone will listen...No player in this year's draft will have an effect on the Saints' 2006 record to any real degree to make a difference in whether the team stays in NO or goes elsewhere. No. LB. No OT. No QB. It's just not gonna happen that way. Thus, we might as well get the player that most fits our team's need for a QB in the future since we have that opportunity and hope we can somehow bring in some FA players that CAN make a difference in '06.

Euphoria · 02-19-2006, 10:32 AM

No... that was the Saints team and that team only. What we should do is trade down and snag FERGUSON OL. We don't nee a great QB to win a Super Bowl as it very well played out this year... you get a great OL and a Great D and you win.

02-17-2006, 09:02 PM	#1
fhs623 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 137	Good Idea? I know many of yall think the saints should go qb, but if they trade down and select a linebacker with their first two picks? I klnow we have alot of needs, but I think the saints should address their needs of qb, OL, and DT through free agency.
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02-17-2006, 11:28 PM	#3
BJSim 500+ posts Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 577	RE: Good Idea? The problem with picking up players in free agency and only having 10+/- million is you have to be really selective. And D_it_up2 is right, how many guys will want to come to this city right now? It's going to be multitudes worse than when Philly couldn't get anyone because their facilities were so bad (pre Nova-Care Center & Lincoln Financail Feild). The Dome is still in shambles, the pre-season will be held in various cities, and who knows if the team will be here in 2-3 year much less next. Go with a drafted QB you know you can sign for 4-6 years and look to fill holes with "Journeymen" players through FA. Hopefully the coaching staff can get the most from those still here and convince the front office to make a few gutsy calls with FA talent.

02-18-2006, 11:44 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: Good Idea? trade down and package players and picks to move up in the draft is the way to go. come on time to do some wheeling and dealing in day one

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jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	RE: Good Idea? i love when people say we should trade down to "build for the future." is taking a franchise qb that is more ready to start on an nfl team than any other prospect in years not building for the future? drafting leinart would show everyone in the nfl community(including fans of all teams) that the saints are finally serious about winning. passing up on such a hot prospect would be a huge mistake.

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TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	RE: Good Idea? i love when people say we should trade down to "build for the future." is taking a franchise qb that is more ready to start on an nfl team than any other prospect in years not building for the future? drafting leinart would show everyone in the nfl community(including fans of all teams) that the saints are finally serious about winning. passing up on such a hot prospect would be a huge mistake Couldn't have said it better. A guy like Matt Leinart is not someone who comes around in every draft (see 2005 NFL draft). Drafting a franchise QB, which is what Leinart will be, is the best step the Saints can take right now.
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02-17-2006, 10:56 PM	#2
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Good Idea? The only problem I see with that is exactly how many free agents will really be eager to sign with the Saints with the insanity that is Tom Benson? I think they should make a few trades of some of their players to acquire draft picks and build for the future.

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ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	RE: Good Idea? Additionally, what many people seem to forget (or not believe) is that a potential franchise QB is worth the risk of a #2 pick when the risk for a high-pick LB is not. Neither is guaranteed to make it in the NFL. However, if any player the Saints draft will become a great player at his position, I'd rather have the QB. I just don't see how people can realistically pass on getting the type of QB that Leinart might turn out to be. I know as well as anyone that there are Ryan Leafs out there. But I'd rather be San Diego and say that we took a chance on a guy rather than a San Diego that passed on him and seen him do well elsewhere.

02-18-2006, 08:52 PM	#8
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Good Idea? Quote: i love when people say we should trade down to "build for the future." is taking a franchise qb that is more ready to start on an nfl team than any other prospect in years not building for the future? drafting leinart would show everyone in the nfl community(including fans of all teams) that the saints are finally serious about winning. passing up on such a hot prospect would be a huge mistake Couldn't have said it better. A guy like Matt Leinart is not someone who comes around in every draft (see 2005 NFL draft). Drafting a franchise QB, which is what Leinart will be, is the best step the Saints can take right now. I will keep saying this until someone listens, Leinart will not contribute immediately to the organization which is what needs to happen for the Saints to remain viable in New Orleans. They need to win games next year not the year after or the year after that. If it were any other year I would draft Leinart it just so happens that the Saints future hinges on players who can contribute now and Leinart is not that player.

02-19-2006, 10:11 AM	#9
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	RE: Good Idea? I will keep saying this until someone listens, Leinart will not contribute immediately to the organization which is what needs to happen for the Saints to remain viable in New Orleans. I'll say this again too and maybe someone will listen...No player in this year's draft will have an effect on the Saints' 2006 record to any real degree to make a difference in whether the team stays in NO or goes elsewhere. No. LB. No OT. No QB. It's just not gonna happen that way. Thus, we might as well get the player that most fits our team's need for a QB in the future since we have that opportunity and hope we can somehow bring in some FA players that CAN make a difference in '06.

02-19-2006, 10:32 AM	#10
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Good Idea? No... that was the Saints team and that team only. What we should do is trade down and snag FERGUSON OL. We don't nee a great QB to win a Super Bowl as it very well played out this year... you get a great OL and a Great D and you win.