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Old 09-17-2007, 01:06 PM   #1
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Re: It's Very Simple...Deuce

We also need a new kicker. We hated him in Miami....of all the moves we made this off-season.....this was the one that REALLY made me KRINGE!!!
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:12 PM   #2
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First off, the Saints had 1 drive in the 3rd before it was 28-0, and they looked like they might actually move the ball, personal foul penalty, interception, ball game.

Second - and I may not have seen this correctly - Deuce was sidelined with the eye thing in the second half.
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:14 PM   #3
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More factors to our losses than simply a lack of running behind the plow horse. We have coughed up huge turnovers for points, been burned at will with big plays in the passing game, cannot seem to generate a decent pass rush, cannot pass block effectively, receivers are not getting seperation on mid to deep routes, etc. It's an overall lack of execution on the players part that is throwing a wrench in the initial game plan.

Only one person has impressed me in these 2 games and unfortunately it's the punter Weatherford. He's been sharp.
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:54 PM   #4
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I laugh when I see the stats that say when so-and-so gets over 100 yards/30 carries, Team X wins every time. Anyone stop to think the team was running to protect a lead? Running doesn't cause winning, winning causes running. Sure it's great if you can come out and pound the ball on the ground, but in the NFL that's pretty hard to do. Sometimes you have to pass to set up the run. That's why coaches have game plans instead of just saying, "today we will run the ball and stop the run."

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Old 09-18-2007, 10:13 PM   #5
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yeah stopping the run and running the ball do seem like good places to start. that is how most teams win. kinda like indy in the playoffs last year. maybe i am wrong. no no that is a good place to start for any team. those two things seem to be gained by your offensive and defensive lines dominating the game. yes that is where games are won and loss, the trenches.

our problems seem to be poor o-line play, rec. not open or not catching the ball, fumbles, oh and that thing- the long ball which we can not stop. right now we stink. i for one am upset at this team. i am so tired of them saying we will get this fixed. well then get it fixed already cause watching you is making me frikan sick

they are laying down out there and it is drivign me crazy. if your goign to lose play hard please. i can except that. come out like this each week makes me sick

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Old 09-18-2007, 11:03 PM   #6
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I laugh when I see the stats that say when so-and-so gets over 100 yards/30 carries, Team X wins every time. Anyone stop to think the team was running to protect a lead? Running doesn't cause winning, winning causes running. Sure it's great if you can come out and pound the ball on the ground, but in the NFL that's pretty hard to do. Sometimes you have to pass to set up the run. That's why coaches have game plans instead of just saying, "today we will run the ball and stop the run."
Dude I think you are the smartest man to be on this forum today aside from myself of course. I have been preaching forever now... you can't run the ball if you are getting your butt handed to you.
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:45 AM   #7
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Like I said yesterday......you pass to get the lead, you run to keep it.

This works if you have a defense.
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Old 09-19-2007, 12:10 PM   #8
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Like I said yesterday......you pass to get the lead, you run to keep it.

This works if you have a defense.
You Pass to Score...You run to Win
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Old 09-19-2007, 12:26 PM   #9
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if they would run deuce more than they run reggie than we would win more..... because reggie almost as many yards,as he gains and he has a big problem holdin on to the ball......... and duece never fumbles....... but everyone including the coaches are stuck so far up reggies but thats all they want is reggie........ but if you really look at it in the games were duece get a fair share of touches thats the games that the saints when...... because the d-fence can stop reggie and cover wide outs...... but if you give them a steady dose of #26 then thorw it to the wide outs or to reggie.... then you will get some where..... the saint have got to pound it and pound then to do the big plays.......
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:28 PM   #10
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I guess only a few of us understand the fact that if your defense CAN NOT STOP THE OTHER TEAM FROM SCORING...........running the ball does not help you win. It runs time off the clock.
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