Thank you, Sean Payton

saints9 · 11-14-2007, 03:33 PM

Dude, Saints9 call it like I see it, Drew Brees, arse suck, and Sean Payton, He deliberately sabotage the Saints season with those draft picks. How these teams blitz, you don't need a statue quarterback like Drew Brees, you need a quarterback who can move. And yes, Aaron Brooks is a better quarterback than Drew Brees, Drew Bree f!!king suck, and I'm saying that Aaron Brooks is better than he, I don't care who doesn't like it. Prove to me that Drew Brees is a better quarterback, how many fumble does he have ? How many Interceptions, does he has? It's mighty strange how people can critcize Aaron Brooks, but don't blame Drew Brees for losing last weeks game. He has more interception than TD's, when a quarterback is losing games, than he must go on the bench. And don't talk about back-ups, it's disgraceful.

Bobaganoosh · 11-14-2007, 03:41 PM

Funny how your name is Saints9...now i would assume that 95% of the members here would guess that you got the name because you are a Saints fan and the number 9 from Drew Brees...but now you say he is worse than aaron brooks. something has to give. You did see the Drew Brees that threw 26 TD's last year right? You did see the Drew Brees that had 11 TD's to 1 INT in the previous 4 games right? But since he threw 2 TD's and 2 INT's against the Rams, we need aaron friggin brooks? Well what should Indy do now? Their QB threw 6...yes 6, picks against San Diego...on a Sunday night...on national television...and that was following up a turnover on the last drive he had the previous week with a chance to beat the patriots and now they have lost 2 in a row. They should probably get on the phone right now and get one or both of the Billy Joes in there to turn their season around.

There is nothing but chaos in Indy and New Orleans due to all the poor QB play in the cities.

papz · 11-14-2007, 03:55 PM

And yes, Aaron Brooks is a better quarterback than Drew Brees, Drew Bree f!!king suck, and I'm saying that Aaron Brooks is better than he, I don't care who doesn't like it.

You just lost all credibility.

Are you blackonblack with a new ip address?

Euphoria · 11-14-2007, 03:58 PM

I can agree with getting a QB but not instead of Brees. Get a QB to replace Brees in the future or incase of injury because lord help us if Martin has to take to the field.

Brees is great at the short drop that how he is able to avoid sacks. Our flaws has show this year though that our line isn't as good as last year or as we all thought they were. So Bree's has been more vunerable but no reason to get rid of him. Get him some protection, he never was illusive running around in the backfield only because of his short drops and quick releases.

If our WR get gammed or fail to hit the open zones we have to buy him every extra second we can.

Euphoria · 11-14-2007, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by saints9

Dude, Saints9 call it like I see it, Drew Brees, arse suck, and Sean Payton, He deliberately sabotage the Saints season with those draft picks. How these teams blitz, you don't need a statue quarterback like Drew Brees, you need a quarterback who can move. And yes, Aaron Brooks is a better quarterback than Drew Brees, Drew Bree f!!king suck, and I'm saying that Aaron Brooks is better than he, I don't care who doesn't like it. Prove to me that Drew Brees is a better quarterback, how many fumble does he have ? How many Interceptions, does he has? It's mighty strange how people can critcize Aaron Brooks, but don't blame Drew Brees for losing last weeks game. He has more interception than TD's, when a quarterback is losing games, than he must go on the bench. And don't talk about back-ups, it's disgraceful.

You stick with your guy. You don't Bench Manning after throwing 4-5 INTS. You don't bench QB's for the sake of benching them. They must learn to fight though the bad moments, get there rythum, get there mechanics back. Yes there are times to bench them but Manning, Brady, Brees aren't the QB's you bench.

saints9 · 11-14-2007, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh

This may have been the longest useless post i have ever read. First off, why draft Ugoh when Brown was an All-Pro, Stinchcomb just got an extension, Strief dominated the Bucs in his only start...so there are 3 tackles we have so why take another in the first round? Chris Houston is going to keep on getting abused for as long as he is in the NFL...he relies to much on contact and he will lead the league in PI penalties when it is all said and done. My favorite quote from you was that Payton should know from last year that Brees needed protection? Thats right, he does know that...and Brees was only sacked 15 times last year...that is phenominal. So i disagree with every single thing you said and your idea for the draft was downright laughable. But you are right...Drew Brees cant hold a candle to Aaron Brooks. We should get on the phone with AB right now and get him in here. He is, and always has been the answer for this franchise.

Wasn't it Sean Payton who said, that he needed depth, than why not get the best player to add to the depth. Oh, but you agree with what I said that Drew Brees is a disgrace, and should be playing sand-lock football. Ugo, gave Will Smith all that he could handle. And Chris Houston, just got rookie of the week award. At least Houston puts his hands on a player, Fred Thomas falls and eats dust every week. Why would a coach draft a player knowing he's injuried? Could you please explain this to me? Why would a coach sign FA's who Bobby Hebert claims can't beat out Simoneux, draft players who can't beat out Fred Thomas, who's damn ancient? But yet, the Bengals take David Jones from the Saints practice field and he lands a contract. Is it that the Bengal coach saw talent in David Jones, that Sean Payton and couldn't see. The Saints just gave away their picks to other teams, like Antoino Pittman, who is better than Aaron Stecker. Look here buddy, Sean Payton, may have pull the wool over your eye's but not mine.

Why does Sean Payton play favorites? Stecker over Pierre Thomas, Simoneux over Simmons, who was just voted for player of the week, what going on here, Isn't the object of the game is to win, and play the best players you have available. Drew Brees suck and Sean Payton.

Euphoria · 11-14-2007, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by saints9

Wasn't it Sean Payton who said, that he needed depth, than why not get the best player to add to the depth. Oh, but you agree with what I said that Drew Brees is a disgrace, and should be playing sand-lock football. Ugo, gave Will Smith all that he could handle. And Chris Houston, just got rookie of the week award. At least Houston puts his hands on a player, Fred Thomas falls and eats dust every week. Why would a coach draft a player knowing he's injuried? Could you please explain this to me? Why would a coach sign FA's who Bobby Hebert claims can't beat out Simoneux, draft players who can't beat out Fred Thomas, who's damn ancient? But yet, the Bengals take David Jones from the Saints practice field and he lands a contract. Is it that the Bengal coach saw talent in David Jones, that Sean Payton and couldn't see. The Saints just gave away their picks to other teams, like Antoino Pittman, who is better than Aaron Stecker. Look here buddy, Sean Payton, may have pull the wool over your eye's but not mine.

Why does Sean Payton play favorites? Stecker over Pierre Thomas, Simoneux over Simmons, who was just voted for player of the week, what going on here, Isn't the object of the game is to win, and play the best players you have available. Drew Brees suck and Sean Payton.

OMG... I think I just lost my title of being the most disliked around here with just one Thread. -Is school out today that I don't know about?

stockman311 · 11-14-2007, 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=Euphoria;146374]I don't think anyone should look at the Robert Meachum pick as anything but as a replacement WR for the future. You don't draft a WR to come in an contribute on day one. They take time to develop and get use to the speed. We got lucky with Colston. There was no way have being sure that this team had a lot of talent at WR until the season began and even that is arguable. They are making contributions and that is great.
[QUOTE]

This is nonsense. You expect your first round pick to come in and contribute. I'm going to give you some numbers of another first round WR we drafted not named Colston. He went to the same school as Meachum, had similar combine numbers as Meachum and threw these numbers up in year 1:

Games - 13
REC - 42
YDS - 594
AVG - 14.1
LONG - 57
TD's - 8

His name was Donte Stallworth. Those are pretty good numbers for a rookie and quite similar to what Colston did for us last year.
Take Meachums numbers in the same catagories for this year and they all add up to 0.
And your telling me I can't label the guy a bust.
As our friend Baba has pointed out, we don't exactly have a murderer's row at WR on this team. Outside of Colston what other WR would start anywhere else? I think were his words. And Meachum couldn't beat any of these guys out? Really? And I can't say this guy was a total waste of a pick and big time bust? F that. I'm saying it, because he was and is.

WhoDat205 · 11-14-2007, 04:23 PM

I'm not sure why I'm responding to a person who refers to himself in the 3rd person and has yet to grasp the overt nuances of the English language, but...

______CMP_ATT__YDS_CMP%_YPA_LNG_TD_INT_SACK_RAT_FUM_LOST

Career 1673 2963 20261 56.5 6.84 76 123 92 235 78.5 30 11
Career 1731 2734 19213 63.3 7.03 86 120 76 116 87.2 8 2

In a blind taste-test, which would you choose? Both have played 7 seasons.

stockman311 · 11-14-2007, 04:27 PM

I would think Guy 2 in that scenario would be the obvious choice.

11-14-2007, 03:33 PM	#21
saints9 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 38	Re: Thank you, Sean Payton Dude, Saints9 call it like I see it, Drew Brees, arse suck, and Sean Payton, He deliberately sabotage the Saints season with those draft picks. How these teams blitz, you don't need a statue quarterback like Drew Brees, you need a quarterback who can move. And yes, Aaron Brooks is a better quarterback than Drew Brees, Drew Bree f!!king suck, and I'm saying that Aaron Brooks is better than he, I don't care who doesn't like it. Prove to me that Drew Brees is a better quarterback, how many fumble does he have ? How many Interceptions, does he has? It's mighty strange how people can critcize Aaron Brooks, but don't blame Drew Brees for losing last weeks game. He has more interception than TD's, when a quarterback is losing games, than he must go on the bench. And don't talk about back-ups, it's disgraceful.
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11-14-2007, 03:41 PM	#22
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Thank you, Sean Payton Funny how your name is Saints9...now i would assume that 95% of the members here would guess that you got the name because you are a Saints fan and the number 9 from Drew Brees...but now you say he is worse than aaron brooks. something has to give. You did see the Drew Brees that threw 26 TD's last year right? You did see the Drew Brees that had 11 TD's to 1 INT in the previous 4 games right? But since he threw 2 TD's and 2 INT's against the Rams, we need aaron friggin brooks? Well what should Indy do now? Their QB threw 6...yes 6, picks against San Diego...on a Sunday night...on national television...and that was following up a turnover on the last drive he had the previous week with a chance to beat the patriots and now they have lost 2 in a row. They should probably get on the phone right now and get one or both of the Billy Joes in there to turn their season around. There is nothing but chaos in Indy and New Orleans due to all the poor QB play in the cities.
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11-14-2007, 03:55 PM	#23
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Re: Thank you, Sean Payton And yes, Aaron Brooks is a better quarterback than Drew Brees, Drew Bree f!!king suck, and I'm saying that Aaron Brooks is better than he, I don't care who doesn't like it. You just lost all credibility. Are you blackonblack with a new ip address?

11-14-2007, 03:58 PM	#24
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Thank you, Sean Payton I can agree with getting a QB but not instead of Brees. Get a QB to replace Brees in the future or incase of injury because lord help us if Martin has to take to the field. Brees is great at the short drop that how he is able to avoid sacks. Our flaws has show this year though that our line isn't as good as last year or as we all thought they were. So Bree's has been more vunerable but no reason to get rid of him. Get him some protection, he never was illusive running around in the backfield only because of his short drops and quick releases. If our WR get gammed or fail to hit the open zones we have to buy him every extra second we can.
	E U P H O R I A

11-14-2007, 04:05 PM	#25
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Thank you, Sean Payton Originally Posted by saints9 Dude, Saints9 call it like I see it, Drew Brees, arse suck, and Sean Payton, He deliberately sabotage the Saints season with those draft picks. How these teams blitz, you don't need a statue quarterback like Drew Brees, you need a quarterback who can move. And yes, Aaron Brooks is a better quarterback than Drew Brees, Drew Bree f!!king suck, and I'm saying that Aaron Brooks is better than he, I don't care who doesn't like it. Prove to me that Drew Brees is a better quarterback, how many fumble does he have ? How many Interceptions, does he has? It's mighty strange how people can critcize Aaron Brooks, but don't blame Drew Brees for losing last weeks game. He has more interception than TD's, when a quarterback is losing games, than he must go on the bench. And don't talk about back-ups, it's disgraceful. You stick with your guy. You don't Bench Manning after throwing 4-5 INTS. You don't bench QB's for the sake of benching them. They must learn to fight though the bad moments, get there rythum, get there mechanics back. Yes there are times to bench them but Manning, Brady, Brees aren't the QB's you bench.

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11-14-2007, 04:12 PM	#26
saints9 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 38	Re: Thank you, Sean Payton Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh This may have been the longest useless post i have ever read. First off, why draft Ugoh when Brown was an All-Pro, Stinchcomb just got an extension, Strief dominated the Bucs in his only start...so there are 3 tackles we have so why take another in the first round? Chris Houston is going to keep on getting abused for as long as he is in the NFL...he relies to much on contact and he will lead the league in PI penalties when it is all said and done. My favorite quote from you was that Payton should know from last year that Brees needed protection? Thats right, he does know that...and Brees was only sacked 15 times last year...that is phenominal. So i disagree with every single thing you said and your idea for the draft was downright laughable. But you are right...Drew Brees cant hold a candle to Aaron Brooks. We should get on the phone with AB right now and get him in here. He is, and always has been the answer for this franchise. Wasn't it Sean Payton who said, that he needed depth, than why not get the best player to add to the depth. Oh, but you agree with what I said that Drew Brees is a disgrace, and should be playing sand-lock football. Ugo, gave Will Smith all that he could handle. And Chris Houston, just got rookie of the week award. At least Houston puts his hands on a player, Fred Thomas falls and eats dust every week. Why would a coach draft a player knowing he's injuried? Could you please explain this to me? Why would a coach sign FA's who Bobby Hebert claims can't beat out Simoneux, draft players who can't beat out Fred Thomas, who's damn ancient? But yet, the Bengals take David Jones from the Saints practice field and he lands a contract. Is it that the Bengal coach saw talent in David Jones, that Sean Payton and couldn't see. The Saints just gave away their picks to other teams, like Antoino Pittman, who is better than Aaron Stecker. Look here buddy, Sean Payton, may have pull the wool over your eye's but not mine. Why does Sean Payton play favorites? Stecker over Pierre Thomas, Simoneux over Simmons, who was just voted for player of the week, what going on here, Isn't the object of the game is to win, and play the best players you have available. Drew Brees suck and Sean Payton.
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11-14-2007, 04:20 PM	#27
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Thank you, Sean Payton Originally Posted by saints9 Wasn't it Sean Payton who said, that he needed depth, than why not get the best player to add to the depth. Oh, but you agree with what I said that Drew Brees is a disgrace, and should be playing sand-lock football. Ugo, gave Will Smith all that he could handle. And Chris Houston, just got rookie of the week award. At least Houston puts his hands on a player, Fred Thomas falls and eats dust every week. Why would a coach draft a player knowing he's injuried? Could you please explain this to me? Why would a coach sign FA's who Bobby Hebert claims can't beat out Simoneux, draft players who can't beat out Fred Thomas, who's damn ancient? But yet, the Bengals take David Jones from the Saints practice field and he lands a contract. Is it that the Bengal coach saw talent in David Jones, that Sean Payton and couldn't see. The Saints just gave away their picks to other teams, like Antoino Pittman, who is better than Aaron Stecker. Look here buddy, Sean Payton, may have pull the wool over your eye's but not mine. Why does Sean Payton play favorites? Stecker over Pierre Thomas, Simoneux over Simmons, who was just voted for player of the week, what going on here, Isn't the object of the game is to win, and play the best players you have available. Drew Brees suck and Sean Payton. OMG... I think I just lost my title of being the most disliked around here with just one Thread. -Is school out today that I don't know about?

11-14-2007, 04:22 PM	#28
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Thank you, Sean Payton [QUOTE=Euphoria;146374]I don't think anyone should look at the Robert Meachum pick as anything but as a replacement WR for the future. You don't draft a WR to come in an contribute on day one. They take time to develop and get use to the speed. We got lucky with Colston. There was no way have being sure that this team had a lot of talent at WR until the season began and even that is arguable. They are making contributions and that is great. [QUOTE] This is nonsense. You expect your first round pick to come in and contribute. I'm going to give you some numbers of another first round WR we drafted not named Colston. He went to the same school as Meachum, had similar combine numbers as Meachum and threw these numbers up in year 1: Games - 13 REC - 42 YDS - 594 AVG - 14.1 LONG - 57 TD's - 8 His name was Donte Stallworth. Those are pretty good numbers for a rookie and quite similar to what Colston did for us last year. Take Meachums numbers in the same catagories for this year and they all add up to 0. And your telling me I can't label the guy a bust. As our friend Baba has pointed out, we don't exactly have a murderer's row at WR on this team. Outside of Colston what other WR would start anywhere else? I think were his words. And Meachum couldn't beat any of these guys out? Really? And I can't say this guy was a total waste of a pick and big time bust? F that. I'm saying it, because he was and is.

11-14-2007, 04:23 PM	#29
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Thank you, Sean Payton I'm not sure why I'm responding to a person who refers to himself in the 3rd person and has yet to grasp the overt nuances of the English language, but... ______CMP_ATT__YDS_CMP%_YPA_LNG_TD_INT_SACK_RAT_FUM_LOST Career 1673 2963 20261 56.5 6.84 76 123 92 235 78.5 30 11 Career 1731 2734 19213 63.3 7.03 86 120 76 116 87.2 8 2 In a blind taste-test, which would you choose? Both have played 7 seasons.

11-14-2007, 04:27 PM	#30
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Thank you, Sean Payton I would think Guy 2 in that scenario would be the obvious choice.