Reggie Bush, the FUTURE?

Euphoria · 03-04-2008, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy

Didn't everyone, I mean nearly everyone, that watches the sport think Reggie was going to be an awesome RB (not a return man)? C'mon Euph. Did you know he was going to flop at RB? You and what, nine other peeps on the NFL? C'mon, everyone bought into him being something special - at RB.

You must have heard wrong. I don't recall anyone ever saying he was going to be a special RB. I did hear people say he was going to be a 'special football player'. And for all its worth he is a special football player (not RB). Thats it except for a few knuckleheads who insist on calling him a RB or better yet a featured RB of which he never was except high school. He wasn't even a featured back at USC.

BrooksMustGo · 03-05-2008, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

You must have heard wrong. I don't recall anyone ever saying he was going to be a special RB. I did hear people say he was going to be a 'special football player'. And for all its worth he is a special football player (not RB). Thats it except for a few knuckleheads who insist on calling him a RB or better yet a featured RB of which he never was except high school. He wasn't even a featured back at USC.

I basically agree that he is a return specialist.

But I do remember hearing a lot of "Reggie Bush is a once in a generation football player." If he were just a return specialist, then Devin Hester is much more the once in a generation kick returner. Reggie also got a lot of comparisons to Gayle Sayers. I think many folks thought he was going to electrify the league. Others thought he couldn't take the pounding of a RB.

He hasn't because he can't run between the tackles and can't outrun the defense to the corner, but it seems a bit too much to say that folks didn't think he would do well.

papz · 03-04-2008, 06:27 PM

Trust me LOE... don't bother wasting your time on this subject.

cgctobe · 03-04-2008, 08:12 PM

Reggie is more suited for a zone scheme.....He would do great in Denver.

poydras · 03-05-2008, 07:47 AM

I think he'll get better and better. We need to keep him haelthy.

foreverfan · 03-05-2008, 11:13 AM

Reggie will be fine. We need to replace Deuce though.

SapperSaint · 03-05-2008, 12:38 PM

How do you know Reggie will be fine? What has he shown to prove he is going to have even an "Okay" year? Deuce carries half of the Eagles team into the endzone two years ago and wasn't having too bad of a year until he got hurt.

Deuce is proven.

Reggie is not.

foreverfan · 03-06-2008, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

How do you know Reggie will be fine? What has he shown to prove he is going to have even an "Okay" year? Deuce carries half of the Eagles team into the endzone two years ago and wasn't having too bad of a year until he got hurt.

Deuce is proven.

Reggie is not.

Ok I've said this on other threads. The main problem with Reggie last year is that he is not a true RB. Deuce is but HIS CAREER IS ALMOST OVER. We need to replace him and I'm not sure Payton believes that PT is the answer. The best way to get Reggie to gain 1500 ALL PURPOSE YARDS (not a bust) is to use him correctly. This will take a TRUE RB. If we have terrefic running back to support him, we may just have the BEST OFFENSE in the league again. Reggie will not take as many hits in the flat and force one on one coverage down field. Having him split out creates mismatches at the line of scrimmage for a back like Deuce to exploit. It also keeps pressure off of Drew Brees because it is much harder to blitz to the side where Reggie is. In any case, Reggie is a jem of a player consider:

He missed 4 games last year....
Still in two years he as 2305 yards rushing and receiving and only 5 fumbles lost. If he played in those 4 games, base on the above figures, he would have 2634 yards or 1317 yards per season or 82 yards per game. This doesn't include kickoffs and punt returns.

But that's not where his biggest impact is felt. Defenses have to account for him on every play. Reggie most of the reason we have such a great offense because just having him on the field changes the game plan of the defense so much. The key to making Reggie GREAT AGAIN it to have a healthy BIG RUNNING BACK that can take the LOAD OFF of him and FORCE MORE MISMATCHES. The safeties will have to cheat up to the line which will open things up down field for Colston and Henderson.

No body else but a RB will FIX THE SAINTS OFFENSE and have the most impact on the team. Duece's career is OVER. Time to move on.

We are one player from having the BEST OFFENSE IN THE LEAGUE AGAIN!

PASS RUSH AND RUNNING GAME WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!

gandhi1007 · 03-06-2008, 07:31 AM

Maybe I'm just being biased because of my little incident I had with him his rookie season, but I vote NO. I think he's a good athlete, but not an NFL RB. C'mon, the guy goes down on the first hit! He doesn't break tackles at the line of scrimmage. Everybody knows that in the NFL you have to break those initial tackles to be a successful RB. Anyway....after the comments he made last year about knowing when to go down to prolong your career, I don't think he's going to be NFL starter material. I hope he proves me wrong, but so far he has not.

SapperSaint · 03-06-2008, 07:37 AM

Welcome back home, gandhi.

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03-04-2008, 11:50 PM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Reggie Bush, the FUTURE? Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy Didn't everyone, I mean nearly everyone, that watches the sport think Reggie was going to be an awesome RB (not a return man)? C'mon Euph. Did you know he was going to flop at RB? You and what, nine other peeps on the NFL? C'mon, everyone bought into him being something special - at RB. You must have heard wrong. I don't recall anyone ever saying he was going to be a special RB. I did hear people say he was going to be a 'special football player'. And for all its worth he is a special football player (not RB). Thats it except for a few knuckleheads who insist on calling him a RB or better yet a featured RB of which he never was except high school. He wasn't even a featured back at USC.

03-05-2008, 12:05 AM	#2
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Re: Reggie Bush, the FUTURE? Originally Posted by Euphoria You must have heard wrong. I don't recall anyone ever saying he was going to be a special RB. I did hear people say he was going to be a 'special football player'. And for all its worth he is a special football player (not RB). Thats it except for a few knuckleheads who insist on calling him a RB or better yet a featured RB of which he never was except high school. He wasn't even a featured back at USC. I basically agree that he is a return specialist. But I do remember hearing a lot of "Reggie Bush is a once in a generation football player." If he were just a return specialist, then Devin Hester is much more the once in a generation kick returner. Reggie also got a lot of comparisons to Gayle Sayers. I think many folks thought he was going to electrify the league. Others thought he couldn't take the pounding of a RB. He hasn't because he can't run between the tackles and can't outrun the defense to the corner, but it seems a bit too much to say that folks didn't think he would do well.
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03-05-2008, 11:13 AM	#6
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03-06-2008, 10:26 AM	#8
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Reggie Bush, the FUTURE? Originally Posted by SapperSaint How do you know Reggie will be fine? What has he shown to prove he is going to have even an "Okay" year? Deuce carries half of the Eagles team into the endzone two years ago and wasn't having too bad of a year until he got hurt. Deuce is proven. Reggie is not. Ok I've said this on other threads. The main problem with Reggie last year is that he is not a true RB. Deuce is but HIS CAREER IS ALMOST OVER. We need to replace him and I'm not sure Payton believes that PT is the answer. The best way to get Reggie to gain 1500 ALL PURPOSE YARDS (not a bust) is to use him correctly. This will take a TRUE RB. If we have terrefic running back to support him, we may just have the BEST OFFENSE in the league again. Reggie will not take as many hits in the flat and force one on one coverage down field. Having him split out creates mismatches at the line of scrimmage for a back like Deuce to exploit. It also keeps pressure off of Drew Brees because it is much harder to blitz to the side where Reggie is. In any case, Reggie is a jem of a player consider: He missed 4 games last year.... Still in two years he as 2305 yards rushing and receiving and only 5 fumbles lost. If he played in those 4 games, base on the above figures, he would have 2634 yards or 1317 yards per season or 82 yards per game. This doesn't include kickoffs and punt returns. But that's not where his biggest impact is felt. Defenses have to account for him on every play. Reggie most of the reason we have such a great offense because just having him on the field changes the game plan of the defense so much. The key to making Reggie GREAT AGAIN it to have a healthy BIG RUNNING BACK that can take the LOAD OFF of him and FORCE MORE MISMATCHES. The safeties will have to cheat up to the line which will open things up down field for Colston and Henderson. No body else but a RB will FIX THE SAINTS OFFENSE and have the most impact on the team. Duece's career is OVER. Time to move on. We are one player from having the BEST OFFENSE IN THE LEAGUE AGAIN! PASS RUSH AND RUNNING GAME WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!
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