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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I think you are missing the point that this about giving up so much for one player. I said I wasn't impressed with Dorsey last year based on the hype and what I got back were excuses: He was double-teamed! ...
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Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!!
I think you are missing the point that this about giving up so much for one player. I said I wasn't impressed with Dorsey last year based on the hype and what I got back were excuses: He was double-teamed! He was injured!
The bottom line is that many of you are jumping on this moving up to 2nd bandwagon to get him and claiming he's going to go to multiple pro bowls when there's a decent chance that he could turn out to be just an average NFL player at his position. The year Reggie was drafted many experts said he was the closest thing ever to a sure thing yet he has not made a pro bowl yet. I'm going to guess that many of you are starting to have doubts if he ever will. That doesn't mean he's not a good player, but what if we had given up several picks to get him? I'm not knocking Reggie as I am glad we have him, but so far he's been good, not great. So, with Dorsey we have to pay a similar price in salary plus trade picks to get him. Is the risk of him being good, not great worth all of that? |
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Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!!
Originally Posted by ScottyRo
I am sorry but there are no excuses you are right. Dorsey dominated the SEC and the NCAA for more than one year and won a national championship. He has made excellant decisions on and off the field, I'll say again returning to win a National Championship - HE LIVED UP TO THE HYPE!!!![]()
You are drafting a guy based on his performance in college and what he 'could' do for you in the NFL. Is he worth giving up a second round pick... HELL F'IN YES! This guy looked intimidating in yellow and purple imagine what he looks like running at you in black??? LOL |
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Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!!
Originally Posted by ScottyRo
Dude, no offense but you don't have a clue about what you are talking about. I've watched every snap Dorsey has ever played at LSU and when healthy he was one of the most dominant DT in college football history. A BS chop block against Auburn and then him playing on basically one leg from that point on doesn't take away from what he did in four years of college. When healthy, he CONSISTANTLY beats double teams and makes tackles in opposing teams backfields. He is the best player in this draft and it's not even close. IF we can get him for this years 1st and 2nd I think we have to do it. Saying this, I think this is more smoke than fire and I think it is far more likely we trade up to get Ellis.
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Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!!
Originally Posted by stockman311
First, you couldn't mean anything but offense by saying I don't have a clue so why cower behind the "no offense" phrase? Be a man.![]()
Second, it's funny. I just got through reading ESPN's 50 biggest draft busts articles (it includes Sully, btw - I knew it would). I imagine that for many of those players listed therein that there plenty of homers like yourself that had glowing things to say about those players only to watch them crash and burn in the NFL. So, before you tell me what I do not have a clue about, dude, try to recognize that I am only expressing MY concerns about this deal based on the real possibility that he could turn out to be a dud. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it is at least a possibility. And hey, thanks for yet another excuse about his play last year. It just goes to show that you, too, know he didn't have a great year. |
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Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!!
Originally Posted by ScottyRo
No I think Dorsey had a great year! Not as great as previous ok but its still a great year by any other DT in the NCAA besides maybe Ellis. Giving up a 2nd for Dorsey is a no brainer... what he will do for our D over all will be night and day. You want CB help you get Dorsey. You want Saftey help you get Dorsey. You want LB help you get Dorsey. Sure winning a national championship is a team deal but you can't tell me he wasn't the anchor of that team.
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