Jeremy Shockey

JKool · 05-08-2008, 12:18 PM

SFIAH, thanks for the thoughts on points allowed. I think the conclusion might be something like this: the best predictor of SB victory is a top 10 defense in terms of points allowed.

However, since points allowed is a combined stat (it measures offensive as well as defensive success), it is hard to say which contribution (offensive or defensive) is more important. Thus, defense wins championships isn't supported by "points allowed" results alone.

Perhaps we could compare points allowed to traditional offensive stats (like yards per play, completion percentage, or something) to traditional defensive stats (like yards allowed per play, interceptions, sacks, or something) to determine which contributed more to the "points allowed". Maybe time of possession would be an interesting way to tease apart the contributions of offense and defense to points allowed?

This relates to the Shockey dispute in only one way. If Shockey were significant to increasing our time of possession, he would directly contribute to the important "points allowed" statistic. Of course, the "cost" and "character" arguments would still stand on their own.

Interesting!

05-08-2008, 12:18 PM	#11
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Re: payton wants shockey................... SFIAH, thanks for the thoughts on points allowed. I think the conclusion might be something like this: the best predictor of SB victory is a top 10 defense in terms of points allowed. However, since points allowed is a combined stat (it measures offensive as well as defensive success), it is hard to say which contribution (offensive or defensive) is more important. Thus, defense wins championships isn't supported by "points allowed" results alone. Perhaps we could compare points allowed to traditional offensive stats (like yards per play, completion percentage, or something) to traditional defensive stats (like yards allowed per play, interceptions, sacks, or something) to determine which contributed more to the "points allowed". Maybe time of possession would be an interesting way to tease apart the contributions of offense and defense to points allowed? This relates to the Shockey dispute in only one way. If Shockey were significant to increasing our time of possession, he would directly contribute to the important "points allowed" statistic. Of course, the "cost" and "character" arguments would still stand on their own. Interesting!
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