It just wont go away. Well lets see what happens. Vilmas trade has to be complicating things. this could be interesting

I wish this would go away. The Giants made it to the Superbowl without the distraction of Shockey last year, so I figure we don't need his drama or paycheck either. He has been inconsistent at best and gets hurt alot, why would we want him again?

Because the guy is a ProBowl player and he would add so much to our offense. His contract is cost/player friendly, and if you truly want to win a Superbowl, you need more players like Shockey to pull it off.

Because the guy is a ProBowl player and he would add so much to our offense. His contract is cost/player friendly, and if you truly want to win a Superbowl, you need more players like Shockey to pull it off.

Lets see what do the giants need? OL is the only thing they did not address in the draft. Here we go again, Brown? Stinch & picks? They need a RT. They did not address it in FA or the draft.
So not only will shockey not go away but neither will the OT trade talks.

Originally Posted by jewagr007
Ok Guys and Gals,

Lets break this down. Johnson and Miller both are classified as balanced/hands TE's not blocking TE's. Miller has better hands and speed where Johnson is a bigger target and runs better routes. While Johnson is better at pass/run blocking than Miller...neither are consistant enough to get the job done in that area. We are not even going to discuss Campbell...mute point. Even though these TE's are considered to be better receivers than blockers they can still be covered by most if not all LB's in the business. This leaves Safeties free to roam to head hunt our receivers.
Shockey on the other hand is a more balanced TE that has decent route running skill, great hands and can block on a more consistent basis than all three of our current TE's. Shockey will draw constant attention up the middle from either strong or free safety and will open up the corner and fade routes down the sidelines. Why do you think Plaxico had some many long TD's this season down the sidelines.

I will concur that Johnson was ranked 11th and Shockey only 8th but you have to look at the whole picture. With our receivers double covered the majority of time leaving LB's to cover Johnson/Miller it is a no brainer for Brees to throw the TE route when he is in man-on-man with a LB. The only problem is is that those passes where being dropped to often or being batted by the LB. Throw Shockey in the mix and that pulls safety help in the middle leaving one-on-one coverage on one of the receivers. Another thing this could force is more defense's to play us in Zone coverage instead on Man-to-Man and this meens less blitzes and softer coverage. We all know what Brees will do with that combination.
I do not believe that the FO would have drafted a TE even if the Shockey trade was completely dead due to the fact that no TE on the board at the round 2 spot would have given them a definite upgrade over Johnson or Miller. You don't draft for position unless it is a need or you can guarantee an upgrade over current players.
This being said I think Shockey would be a good addition but not necessary unless the price is right. You have to remember that he will require a large contract to keep him and there is this little thing called a salary cap that the FO has to deal with also. Will Smith is wanting a contract negotiation and given the choice over paying Shockey or Smith...I'll take Smith any day. Best Offense is a good Defense. Our offense is strong if they can get on the field. The defense could not get off the field last year due to a poor secondary. Fix this hole first...then tweek the rest.