Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David

ArmySaintFan · 12-20-2009, 10:16 AM

Wow!! Why is it we always have to have a scapegoat??? why can't the loss be a team effort?? I mean why can't we blame bush for the loss too?? everyone always does, or hell lets blame it on Jason David! how about this Jenkins is a rookie with alot to learn he isn't very speedy so he will have to learn to rely on play instead of speed, the loss was a team effort defense played bad offense played bad and Brees was way off most of the night!

Its amazing to see this after only one loss, I am glad I wasn't a member here during the 05 season!! WOW, Looking alot like SR in here today (except I won't get banned to posting this!)

CantonLegend · 12-20-2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by ArmySaintFan

Wow!! Why is it we always have to have a scapegoat??? why can't the loss be a team effort?? I mean why can't we blame bush for the loss too?? everyone always does, or hell lets blame it on Jason David! how about this Jenkins is a rookie with alot to learn he isn't very speedy so he will have to learn to rely on play instead of speed, the loss was a team effort defense played bad offense played bad and Brees was way off most of the night!

Its amazing to see this after only one loss, I am glad I wasn't a member here during the 05 season!! WOW, Looking alot like SR in here today (except I won't get banned to posting this!)

lol now now

the difference is that at the other place everybody would be jumping on to agree with him.......here we dont allow that garbage and it is very obvious in this thread how things like this are handled

ArmySaintFan · 12-20-2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

Back before the season started there was a debate about whether we really needed Jenkins, who was holding out. I remember the poster said he was too slow to play corner and people here were dissing that person and asking what "credentials" he had to be able to make that statement. For the past few weeks, in almost every opposing team's highlight plays you can see that number 27 getting burned. He was so bad tonight we would have been better off playing 10 on defense. I'll never doubt that poster's "credentials" again. He was right.

I VOTE...... - REP

SaintPauly · 12-20-2009, 10:37 AM

This is weird. I don't remember replying to this thread. In fact I seem to remember putting this
response on another thread. Any hoo, maybe I was more drunk than I thought. Let me say this
now, I don't blame jenkins for the loss, but I do blame the defense for GIVING UP TOO MANY
BIG PLAYS. Now which one of u guys are going to disagree with that? Like I said in another
post, I don't mind losing, if they play a complete game, but they did not. The defense has got
to start showing up start to finish, instead of ONLY when the game is on the line.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-20-2009, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

This is weird. I don't remember replying to this thread. In fact I seem to remember putting this
response on another thread. Any hoo, maybe I was more drunk than I thought. Let me say this
now, I don't blame jenkins for the loss, but I do blame the defense for GIVING UP TOO MANY
BIG PLAYS. Now which one of u guys are going to disagree with that? Like I said in another
post, I don't mind losing, if they play a complete game, but they did not. The defense has got
to start showing up start to finish, instead of ONLY when the game is on the line.

Are you blaming the defense as well for only scoring 3 points in 3+ quarters?
Are you blaming the defense as well for holding the Cowboys to 3 points after Brees fumbled on the Saints 30?
Are you blaming the defense as well for Devery dropping that ball in the endzone?

Maybe you don't get this, but if my defense is pitching 3-and-outs every series, I start calling my offense more agressively, which is what the Cowboys did. after the first 2 series, the defense pretty much held the Cowboys, and started getting to Romo, but the Saints offense kept on going 3-and-out and turning the ball over.

I am not saying the defense played outstanding, but the offense was pathetic. The Saints offense scored 17 points and turned the ball over 3 times.

SaintPauly · 12-20-2009, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Are you blaming the defense as well for only scoring 3 points in 3+ quarters?
Are you blaming the defense as well for holding the Cowboys to 3 points after Brees fumbled on the Saints 30?
Are you blaming the defense as well for Devery dropping that ball in the endzone?

Maybe you don't get this, but if my defense is pitching 3-and-outs every series, I start calling my offense more agressively, which is what the Cowboys did. after the first 2 series, the defense pretty much held the Cowboys, and started getting to Romo, but the Saints offense kept on going 3-and-out and turning the ball over.

I am not saying the defense played outstanding, but the offense was pathetic. The Saints offense scored 17 points and turned the ball over 3 times.

No, I am blaming them for spotting 14 early points to the boys, in the first quarter, when they were playing so far off the line of scrimmage, that Sir Saint could have ran a few slants through there.

I agree that the whole team sucked as a group, but I just feel the defense stunk the worst. We make excuses for these guys every week. Injuries, he's a rookie, it's his first game back. Sounds like my mom, talking about my nephew, when he gets into trouble.

And just to drive it home here, I have been on the defense for the past month and a half. This is NOT the first time I have said something about it.
Go back and check my posts, or responses, and show me where I've been over praising this team at any point. Haven't done it.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-20-2009, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

No, I am blaming them for spotting 14 early points to the boys, in the first quarter, when they were playing so far off the line of scrimmage, that Sir Saint could have ran a few slants through there.

I agree that the whole team sucked as a group, but I just feel the defense stunk the worst. We make excuses for these guys every week. Injuries, he's a rookie, it's his first game back. Sounds like my mom, talking about my nephew, when he gets into trouble.

And just to drive it home here, I have been on the defense for the past month and a half. This is NOT the first time I have said something about it.
Go back and check my posts, or responses, and show me where I've been over praising this team at any point. Haven't done it.

I don't care what you posted before. Whatever you posted before has nothing to do with the comment you are making right now on this game.

Let me ask you this,:you are saying the Saints defense "spotted" the Cowboys 14 points. Did the Cowboys recover 2 straight onside kicks?

Because I seem to remember the Saints getting the ball first and the Saints offense, the highest scoring offense in the league, going 3-and out, then in the next possession go 3-and-out again, then in the next possession but for a Reggie 29 yard run, go 3-and-out again. I saw the highest scoring offense score 3 points in 3+ quarters.

I also saw the Saints offense give away the ball 3 times, once inside the Saints 30, and drop passes in the endzone.

I also saw a coach who refused to leave someone in the backfield to help protect the QB.

I also saw a defense on the field for almost 40 minutes.

But anyway, what do I care what you think.

TheDeuce · 12-20-2009, 11:49 AM

Yes, they gave up some big plays, and they're definitely part of the reason we lost. Another big part is being minus three in the turnover battle. Can't do that and expect to win games. The offense struggled mightily until the fourth quarter. My point is, this was a team loss. Everybody on the team, offense, defense, special teams, had some part in losing this game. Singling out a rookie cornerback and saying it's his fault is moronic.

mikesaintfan · 12-20-2009, 12:05 PM

this loss falls on the offense..after the first 14pts(which came after two , 3 and outs i think) the defense didnt play bad for having so many starters out

saintsfan1976 · 12-20-2009, 12:08 PM

The line of players, plays, coaches and injuries to blame is so long that I've already moved on.

BEAT TAMPA BAY!!

AND BEAT THEM BAAAAAD.

12-20-2009, 10:16 AM	#1
ArmySaintFan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 171	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Wow!! Why is it we always have to have a scapegoat??? why can't the loss be a team effort?? I mean why can't we blame bush for the loss too?? everyone always does, or hell lets blame it on Jason David! how about this Jenkins is a rookie with alot to learn he isn't very speedy so he will have to learn to rely on play instead of speed, the loss was a team effort defense played bad offense played bad and Brees was way off most of the night! Its amazing to see this after only one loss, I am glad I wasn't a member here during the 05 season!! WOW, Looking alot like SR in here today (except I won't get banned to posting this!)

12-20-2009, 10:36 AM	#2
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by ArmySaintFan Wow!! Why is it we always have to have a scapegoat??? why can't the loss be a team effort?? I mean why can't we blame bush for the loss too?? everyone always does, or hell lets blame it on Jason David! how about this Jenkins is a rookie with alot to learn he isn't very speedy so he will have to learn to rely on play instead of speed, the loss was a team effort defense played bad offense played bad and Brees was way off most of the night! Its amazing to see this after only one loss, I am glad I wasn't a member here during the 05 season!! WOW, Looking alot like SR in here today (except I won't get banned to posting this!) lol now now the difference is that at the other place everybody would be jumping on to agree with him.......here we dont allow that garbage and it is very obvious in this thread how things like this are handled

12-20-2009, 10:22 AM	#3
ArmySaintFan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 171	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by poydras Back before the season started there was a debate about whether we really needed Jenkins, who was holding out. I remember the poster said he was too slow to play corner and people here were dissing that person and asking what "credentials" he had to be able to make that statement. For the past few weeks, in almost every opposing team's highlight plays you can see that number 27 getting burned. He was so bad tonight we would have been better off playing 10 on defense. I'll never doubt that poster's "credentials" again. He was right. I VOTE...... - REP

12-20-2009, 10:37 AM	#4
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David This is weird. I don't remember replying to this thread. In fact I seem to remember putting this response on another thread. Any hoo, maybe I was more drunk than I thought. Let me say this now, I don't blame jenkins for the loss, but I do blame the defense for GIVING UP TOO MANY BIG PLAYS. Now which one of u guys are going to disagree with that? Like I said in another post, I don't mind losing, if they play a complete game, but they did not. The defense has got to start showing up start to finish, instead of ONLY when the game is on the line.
	What's popular is not always right, and what's right is not always popular.....

12-20-2009, 01:09 PM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by saintpaul25 This is weird. I don't remember replying to this thread. In fact I seem to remember putting this response on another thread. Any hoo, maybe I was more drunk than I thought. Let me say this now, I don't blame jenkins for the loss, but I do blame the defense for GIVING UP TOO MANY BIG PLAYS. Now which one of u guys are going to disagree with that? Like I said in another post, I don't mind losing, if they play a complete game, but they did not. The defense has got to start showing up start to finish, instead of ONLY when the game is on the line. Are you blaming the defense as well for only scoring 3 points in 3+ quarters? Are you blaming the defense as well for holding the Cowboys to 3 points after Brees fumbled on the Saints 30? Are you blaming the defense as well for Devery dropping that ball in the endzone? Maybe you don't get this, but if my defense is pitching 3-and-outs every series, I start calling my offense more agressively, which is what the Cowboys did. after the first 2 series, the defense pretty much held the Cowboys, and started getting to Romo, but the Saints offense kept on going 3-and-out and turning the ball over. I am not saying the defense played outstanding, but the offense was pathetic. The Saints offense scored 17 points and turned the ball over 3 times.
	'Cause the simple man pays the thrills, the bills and the pills that kill

12-20-2009, 08:19 PM	#6
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Are you blaming the defense as well for only scoring 3 points in 3+ quarters? Are you blaming the defense as well for holding the Cowboys to 3 points after Brees fumbled on the Saints 30? Are you blaming the defense as well for Devery dropping that ball in the endzone? Maybe you don't get this, but if my defense is pitching 3-and-outs every series, I start calling my offense more agressively, which is what the Cowboys did. after the first 2 series, the defense pretty much held the Cowboys, and started getting to Romo, but the Saints offense kept on going 3-and-out and turning the ball over. I am not saying the defense played outstanding, but the offense was pathetic. The Saints offense scored 17 points and turned the ball over 3 times. No, I am blaming them for spotting 14 early points to the boys, in the first quarter, when they were playing so far off the line of scrimmage, that Sir Saint could have ran a few slants through there. I agree that the whole team sucked as a group, but I just feel the defense stunk the worst. We make excuses for these guys every week. Injuries, he's a rookie, it's his first game back. Sounds like my mom, talking about my nephew, when he gets into trouble. And just to drive it home here, I have been on the defense for the past month and a half. This is NOT the first time I have said something about it. Go back and check my posts, or responses, and show me where I've been over praising this team at any point. Haven't done it.
	What's popular is not always right, and what's right is not always popular.....

12-20-2009, 09:07 PM	#7
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by saintpaul25 No, I am blaming them for spotting 14 early points to the boys, in the first quarter, when they were playing so far off the line of scrimmage, that Sir Saint could have ran a few slants through there. I agree that the whole team sucked as a group, but I just feel the defense stunk the worst. We make excuses for these guys every week. Injuries, he's a rookie, it's his first game back. Sounds like my mom, talking about my nephew, when he gets into trouble. And just to drive it home here, I have been on the defense for the past month and a half. This is NOT the first time I have said something about it. Go back and check my posts, or responses, and show me where I've been over praising this team at any point. Haven't done it. I don't care what you posted before. Whatever you posted before has nothing to do with the comment you are making right now on this game. Let me ask you this,:you are saying the Saints defense "spotted" the Cowboys 14 points. Did the Cowboys recover 2 straight onside kicks? Because I seem to remember the Saints getting the ball first and the Saints offense, the highest scoring offense in the league, going 3-and out, then in the next possession go 3-and-out again, then in the next possession but for a Reggie 29 yard run, go 3-and-out again. I saw the highest scoring offense score 3 points in 3+ quarters. I also saw the Saints offense give away the ball 3 times, once inside the Saints 30, and drop passes in the endzone. I also saw a coach who refused to leave someone in the backfield to help protect the QB. I also saw a defense on the field for almost 40 minutes. But anyway, what do I care what you think.
	'Cause the simple man pays the thrills, the bills and the pills that kill

12-20-2009, 11:49 AM	#8
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Yes, they gave up some big plays, and they're definitely part of the reason we lost. Another big part is being minus three in the turnover battle. Can't do that and expect to win games. The offense struggled mightily until the fourth quarter. My point is, this was a team loss. Everybody on the team, offense, defense, special teams, had some part in losing this game. Singling out a rookie cornerback and saying it's his fault is moronic.
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12-20-2009, 12:05 PM	#9
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David this loss falls on the offense..after the first 14pts(which came after two , 3 and outs i think) the defense didnt play bad for having so many starters out

12-20-2009, 12:08 PM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,037 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David The line of players, plays, coaches and injuries to blame is so long that I've already moved on. BEAT TAMPA BAY!! AND BEAT THEM BAAAAAD.