Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning

JoanieNTX · 01-28-2010, 11:00 AM

I would just like to point out, once again....Our defense is not ranked up there with your other "elite" defenses due to one reason. We had too many key injuries early on....corners out...etc. Otherwise, we'd be ranked much higher. So our defensive 'standing' is a little misleading, because we are healthy once again. But......that's ok if you want to overlook us.

We got no problem with that!

braggbro1 · 01-28-2010, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by JoanieNTX

I would just like to point out, once again....Our defense is not ranked up there with your other "elite" defenses due to one reason. We had too many key injuries early on....corners out...etc. Otherwise, we'd be ranked much higher. So our defensive 'standing' is a little misleading, because we are healthy once again. But......that's ok if you want to overlook us. We got no problem with that!

So you think you'd be better than the Jets if you had them all year?

exile · 01-28-2010, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

So you think you'd be better than the Jets if you had them all year?

The Saints D is already better at causing turnovers than the Jets. Does that count?

SaintPauly · 01-28-2010, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

So you think you'd be better than the Jets if you had them all year?

Yes. I do. If I remember correctly, the Jets were on what, on a 5 or 6 game win streak, when we destroyed them.

Our defense was in the top ten against the run, and against the pass, before Greer, and Porter went down. You can check that out. They are the most underrated corners in the league by far.

braggbro1 · 01-28-2010, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Yes. I do. If I remember correctly, the Jets were on what, on a 5 or 6 game win streak, when we destroyed them.

Our defense was in the top ten against the run, and against the pass, before Greer, and Porter went down. You can check that out. They are the most underrated corners in the league by far.

You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns.

You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength.

spkb25 · 01-28-2010, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns.

You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength.

Okay- I give you that that their D is better, but their offense is like a men to boys scenario. That would be with us being the men. Both teams you played had limited passing attacks. Good luck competing against an offense that does both well. Does that mean we are going to win this game- of course not, but to pretend that beating the Jets and Ravens is the same as beating us- ummm okay- hope your team feels the same way.

We played a team as good as the Colts in my opinion. This game comes down to running the ball and defense- I like our chances in both areas. That said this game will be extremely extremely tough- for both teams, but I hope everyone keeps counting us out. Just the way I like it.

braggbro1 · 01-28-2010, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Okay- I give you that that their D is better, but their offense is like a men to boys scenario. That would be with us being the men. Both teams you played had limited passing attacks. Good luck competing against an offense that does both well. Does that mean we are going to win this game- of course not, but to pretend that beating the Jets and Ravens is the same as beating us- ummm okay- hope your team feels the same way.

We played a team as good as the Colts in my opinion. This game comes down to running the ball and defense- I like our chances in both areas. That said this game will be extremely extremely tough- for both teams, but I hope everyone keeps counting us out. Just the way I like it.

You are completely mis-representing what I've said. In fact, I have picked the Saints to win because of the balance of your offense compared to ours.

However, I think many here are completely delusional about your defense and their ability to get after Manning. My only comparisons to the Jets and Ravens were not in terms of a complete team, but in terms of their defensive units. Many here are confidently predicting the Saints defense to do things that those two better defensive units were not able to do. I really do hope that Gregg Williams does what he said he was going to try to do. That is when Manning is at his best and it opens up alot of things downfield.

Choupique · 01-28-2010, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

You are completely mis-representing what I've said. In fact, I have picked the Saints to win because of the balance of your offense compared to ours.

However, I think many here are completely delusional about your defense and their ability to get after Manning. My only comparisons to the Jets and Ravens were not in terms of a complete team, but in terms of their defensive units. Many here are confidently predicting the Saints defense to do things that those two better defensive units were not able to do. I really do hope that Gregg Williams does what he said he was going to try to do. That is when Manning is at his best and it opens up alot of things downfield.

The only one who is delusional is you. You act like Manning can't be touched. Whatever.

That is what the fans of the Pats, Jets, Cards, Vikes and other
teams said this season. They were mistaken just like you are.

Ask Warner and Favre bean how that worked out for them.

After our defense plants Manning's arse in the ground are you gonna
come back like the VyQueen fans and whine about how tough our
D is? Say it ain't so.

The trick is to admit it when you are wrong. Then you won't be so deluded. See you after the game in this thread. We shall see whose
pants are on the ground.

Defense wins championships. ALL that matters here is who Manning faces, not the Jets / Saints comparisons.

All these folks who say... "the other team would have one IF" are the delusional people. Period. No debate.

Would you care to back up that mouth with a wager? I usually go about a grand per bet. You up for that?

mikesaintfan · 01-30-2010, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

You are completely mis-representing what I've said. In fact, I have picked the Saints to win because of the balance of your offense compared to ours.

However, I think many here are completely delusional about your defense and their ability to get after Manning. My only comparisons to the Jets and Ravens were not in terms of a complete team, but in terms of their defensive units. Many here are confidently predicting the Saints defense to do things that those two better defensive units were not able to do. I really do hope that Gregg Williams does what he said he was going to try to do. That is when Manning is at his best and it opens up alot of things downfield.

porter and greer can lock down wayne and pierre gonad or whatever his name is..sharper playing center field combined with the fact that the colts dont run as well as we do means mannings getting hit or throwing int's...1 or 2 good hits(even if its a penalty)will settle him down and make him play like his brother sheli. goodwin,nicks,and evans will push that d-line of indys all over the field. Then the lb's are gonna have to get punished by bell and pt...then when they r tired reggies gonna make them look stupid..as for dwight freeny, he is not as good as jarret allen..how did allen fair against us last week?

SaintPauly · 01-28-2010, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns.

You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength.

I stand corrected. It was a long time ago.

I would also point out, the best game, in my opinion, to compare the Colts, and the Saints, would be the Patriots game. They were both played at home for both teams. If we were going to gauge both offenses, and defenses.

01-28-2010, 11:00 AM	#1
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning I would just like to point out, once again....Our defense is not ranked up there with your other "elite" defenses due to one reason. We had too many key injuries early on....corners out...etc. Otherwise, we'd be ranked much higher. So our defensive 'standing' is a little misleading, because we are healthy once again. But......that's ok if you want to overlook us. We got no problem with that!

01-28-2010, 11:06 AM	#2
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by JoanieNTX I would just like to point out, once again....Our defense is not ranked up there with your other "elite" defenses due to one reason. We had too many key injuries early on....corners out...etc. Otherwise, we'd be ranked much higher. So our defensive 'standing' is a little misleading, because we are healthy once again. But......that's ok if you want to overlook us. We got no problem with that! So you think you'd be better than the Jets if you had them all year?
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01-28-2010, 11:08 AM	#3
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 So you think you'd be better than the Jets if you had them all year? The Saints D is already better at causing turnovers than the Jets. Does that count?
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01-28-2010, 11:14 AM	#4
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 So you think you'd be better than the Jets if you had them all year? Yes. I do. If I remember correctly, the Jets were on what, on a 5 or 6 game win streak, when we destroyed them. Our defense was in the top ten against the run, and against the pass, before Greer, and Porter went down. You can check that out. They are the most underrated corners in the league by far.

01-28-2010, 11:19 AM	#5
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Yes. I do. If I remember correctly, the Jets were on what, on a 5 or 6 game win streak, when we destroyed them. Our defense was in the top ten against the run, and against the pass, before Greer, and Porter went down. You can check that out. They are the most underrated corners in the league by far. You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns. You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength.
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01-28-2010, 11:24 AM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns. You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength. Okay- I give you that that their D is better, but their offense is like a men to boys scenario. That would be with us being the men. Both teams you played had limited passing attacks. Good luck competing against an offense that does both well. Does that mean we are going to win this game- of course not, but to pretend that beating the Jets and Ravens is the same as beating us- ummm okay- hope your team feels the same way. We played a team as good as the Colts in my opinion. This game comes down to running the ball and defense- I like our chances in both areas. That said this game will be extremely extremely tough- for both teams, but I hope everyone keeps counting us out. Just the way I like it.
	Your team stinks

01-28-2010, 11:31 AM	#7
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by spkb25 Okay- I give you that that their D is better, but their offense is like a men to boys scenario. That would be with us being the men. Both teams you played had limited passing attacks. Good luck competing against an offense that does both well. Does that mean we are going to win this game- of course not, but to pretend that beating the Jets and Ravens is the same as beating us- ummm okay- hope your team feels the same way. We played a team as good as the Colts in my opinion. This game comes down to running the ball and defense- I like our chances in both areas. That said this game will be extremely extremely tough- for both teams, but I hope everyone keeps counting us out. Just the way I like it. You are completely mis-representing what I've said. In fact, I have picked the Saints to win because of the balance of your offense compared to ours. However, I think many here are completely delusional about your defense and their ability to get after Manning. My only comparisons to the Jets and Ravens were not in terms of a complete team, but in terms of their defensive units. Many here are confidently predicting the Saints defense to do things that those two better defensive units were not able to do. I really do hope that Gregg Williams does what he said he was going to try to do. That is when Manning is at his best and it opens up alot of things downfield.
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01-28-2010, 11:42 AM	#8
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 You are completely mis-representing what I've said. In fact, I have picked the Saints to win because of the balance of your offense compared to ours. However, I think many here are completely delusional about your defense and their ability to get after Manning. My only comparisons to the Jets and Ravens were not in terms of a complete team, but in terms of their defensive units. Many here are confidently predicting the Saints defense to do things that those two better defensive units were not able to do. I really do hope that Gregg Williams does what he said he was going to try to do. That is when Manning is at his best and it opens up alot of things downfield. The only one who is delusional is you. You act like Manning can't be touched. Whatever. That is what the fans of the Pats, Jets, Cards, Vikes and other teams said this season. They were mistaken just like you are. Ask Warner and Favre bean how that worked out for them. After our defense plants Manning's arse in the ground are you gonna come back like the VyQueen fans and whine about how tough our D is? Say it ain't so. The trick is to admit it when you are wrong. Then you won't be so deluded. See you after the game in this thread. We shall see whose pants are on the ground. Defense wins championships. ALL that matters here is who Manning faces, not the Jets / Saints comparisons. All these folks who say... "the other team would have one IF" are the delusional people. Period. No debate. Would you care to back up that mouth with a wager? I usually go about a grand per bet. You up for that?
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01-30-2010, 07:47 AM	#9
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 You are completely mis-representing what I've said. In fact, I have picked the Saints to win because of the balance of your offense compared to ours. However, I think many here are completely delusional about your defense and their ability to get after Manning. My only comparisons to the Jets and Ravens were not in terms of a complete team, but in terms of their defensive units. Many here are confidently predicting the Saints defense to do things that those two better defensive units were not able to do. I really do hope that Gregg Williams does what he said he was going to try to do. That is when Manning is at his best and it opens up alot of things downfield. porter and greer can lock down wayne and pierre gonad or whatever his name is..sharper playing center field combined with the fact that the colts dont run as well as we do means mannings getting hit or throwing int's...1 or 2 good hits(even if its a penalty)will settle him down and make him play like his brother sheli. goodwin,nicks,and evans will push that d-line of indys all over the field. Then the lb's are gonna have to get punished by bell and pt...then when they r tired reggies gonna make them look stupid..as for dwight freeny, he is not as good as jarret allen..how did allen fair against us last week?
	perception IS reality

01-28-2010, 11:34 AM	#10
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns. You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength. I stand corrected. It was a long time ago. I would also point out, the best game, in my opinion, to compare the Colts, and the Saints, would be the Patriots game. They were both played at home for both teams. If we were going to gauge both offenses, and defenses.

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