2011 New Orleans Saints Depth Chart

jeanpierre · 08-29-2011, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by strato

I would put Miller ahead of King..close one though

We'll keep five (5) defensive tackles...

so we'll probably have both...

FinSaint · 08-29-2011, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We'll keep five (5) defensive tackles...

so we'll probably have both...

So 5 DTs: Rogers, Ellis, Franklin, Johnson, King and Miller - that's 6 DTs, so one will be cut out of Johnson, King and Miller. Or maybe try to get King into the PS, but there's a danger of some other team snatching him up. I still don't see Johnson being cut because of the monetary investment in him and with what he showed before he got injured... clearly the best out of those 3!

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Who could also play DE King or Johnson?

Originally Posted by Danno

Come to think of it both could slide outside in certain packages (like our 3-4 or the 3-3-5). They have good quickness. Both are kinda short but their burst looks good.

Johnson is taller than Ellis and King is about as tall, while Ellis is beefier than both of them, but that can fixed without genetic manipulation.

strato · 08-29-2011, 09:10 AM

I hope J.P..Miller looked good out there...he is big and fast

Danno · 08-29-2011, 09:12 AM

I thought Miller looked slow off the snap. He has good accelleration, but not much burst off the line. At least thats the way it looked to me.

Budsdrinker · 08-29-2011, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I thought Miller looked slow off the snap. He has good accelleration, but not much burst off the line. At least thats the way it looked to me.

He did look slow off the snap but I think that confused the OL because they didn't block him. Don't know if that was by design or he just doesn't get a good jump.

jeanpierre · 08-29-2011, 06:40 PM

If it is by design, then it would be a stunt...

st thomas · 09-04-2011, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If it is by design, then it would be a stunt...

like that quote of football knowlege jp, i remember screaming stunt on the o-line in the ole days

Danno · 09-04-2011, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If it is by design, then it would be a stunt...

IIRC, a stunt involves two players crossing over, thats not what Miller did. It simply looked like he was a bit slow off the snap.

jeanpierre · 09-04-2011, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

IIRC, a stunt involves two players crossing over, thats not what Miller did. It simply looked like he was a bit slow off the snap.

a stunt can also be a delayed move into a rush lane so as to confuse offensive linemen in their reads...

that isn't to say that Miller wasn't slow - only God, GW, the MLB, & the defenders on the field knew the call...

Danno · 09-04-2011, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

a stunt can also be a delayed move into a rush lane so as to confuse offensive linemen in their reads...

that isn't to say that Miller wasn't slow - only God, GW, the MLB, & the defenders on the field knew the call...

Not buying it. It wasn't that huge of a delay to be intentional. He needs work on burst. He has excellent acceleration, but looks slow off the snap. That was no delay.

08-29-2011, 12:01 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by strato I would put Miller ahead of King..close one though We'll keep five (5) defensive tackles... so we'll probably have both...

08-29-2011, 09:15 AM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by jeanpierre We'll keep five (5) defensive tackles... so we'll probably have both... So 5 DTs: Rogers, Ellis, Franklin, Johnson, King and Miller - that's 6 DTs, so one will be cut out of Johnson, King and Miller. Or maybe try to get King into the PS, but there's a danger of some other team snatching him up. I still don't see Johnson being cut because of the monetary investment in him and with what he showed before he got injured... clearly the best out of those 3! Originally Posted by jeanpierre Who could also play DE King or Johnson? Originally Posted by Danno Come to think of it both could slide outside in certain packages (like our 3-4 or the 3-3-5). They have good quickness. Both are kinda short but their burst looks good. Johnson is taller than Ellis and King is about as tall, while Ellis is beefier than both of them, but that can fixed without genetic manipulation.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

08-29-2011, 09:15 AM	#5
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Originally Posted by Danno I thought Miller looked slow off the snap. He has good accelleration, but not much burst off the line. At least thats the way it looked to me. He did look slow off the snap but I think that confused the OL because they didn't block him. Don't know if that was by design or he just doesn't get a good jump.

08-29-2011, 06:40 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	If it is by design, then it would be a stunt... st thomas likes this.

09-04-2011, 12:01 PM	#7
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Originally Posted by jeanpierre If it is by design, then it would be a stunt... like that quote of football knowlege jp, i remember screaming stunt on the o-line in the ole days

08-29-2011, 09:10 AM	#3
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	I hope J.P..Miller looked good out there...he is big and fast

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	I thought Miller looked slow off the snap. He has good accelleration, but not much burst off the line. At least thats the way it looked to me.

09-04-2011, 12:46 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by jeanpierre If it is by design, then it would be a stunt... IIRC, a stunt involves two players crossing over, thats not what Miller did. It simply looked like he was a bit slow off the snap.

09-04-2011, 12:51 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by Danno IIRC, a stunt involves two players crossing over, thats not what Miller did. It simply looked like he was a bit slow off the snap. a stunt can also be a delayed move into a rush lane so as to confuse offensive linemen in their reads... that isn't to say that Miller wasn't slow - only God, GW, the MLB, & the defenders on the field knew the call...

09-04-2011, 12:54 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by jeanpierre a stunt can also be a delayed move into a rush lane so as to confuse offensive linemen in their reads... that isn't to say that Miller wasn't slow - only God, GW, the MLB, & the defenders on the field knew the call... Not buying it. It wasn't that huge of a delay to be intentional. He needs work on burst. He has excellent acceleration, but looks slow off the snap. That was no delay.

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