Its time... FIRE GREG WILLIAMS

Saintswrath · 10-17-2011, 04:14 PM

The team collectively lost.. The Defense and Offense Sucked, Yes im going to include Drew Brees, his Bright spots were overshadowed by his terrible, terrible error's, he was Freeman's Mentor a few years back and Freeman i guess learned to not force a throw if it could result in a turnover while Drew Brees forgot what he taught him..
The student beat the teacher and i feel freakin sick to my stomach for even typing this.

Danno · 10-17-2011, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Saintswrath

he was Freeman's Mentor a few years back and Freeman i guess learned to not force a throw if it could result in a turnover while Drew Brees forgot what he taught him..

You must have missed Josh Freeman last week, and well, pretty much the entire season.

Freeman 2011 - 5 TD's, 6 INTS, 62% Comp% and 78.2 Passer rating
Brees 2011 - 13 TD's, 8 INTS, 68% Comp% and 97 passer rating

The student ain't even close yet.

Euphoria · 10-17-2011, 06:06 PM

We have been rebuilding the D line since Payton got here... Hell look at what we did this last off season and they were all excited about what they got done and its all for NOT.

Don't get me wrong we should be constantly rebuilding with the state of the NFL these days but when they pass out the Cool-Aid and I get diet coke then I am going to give them back a serving of hater-aide.

We aren't talking one bad game for the D we are talking 6-7 bad games in a row now. I don't think we should tolerate the same product year in and year out on that field.

Making a change sooner than later is way better. Gibbs was kept around way longer than he should have.

saintfan · 10-17-2011, 06:12 PM

Boutte · 10-17-2011, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

While the defense played bad, they only gave up 6 points in the 2nd half.

The offense was equally to blame in ths one, specifically the O-line.

True but the D has stunk it up pretty bad all year. (Except Chi.) I wouldn't want to fire the guy in the middle of the season but I really would like to see a new DC next year.

AlaskaSaints · 10-17-2011, 06:27 PM

Divisive week, that's for sure. Everyone just fed up with underperformance.

I been saying' we need a break out game!

Glad to be here, through it all.

Alaska

jlouhill · 10-17-2011, 06:46 PM

Actually, I think it's time to accept the fact that this is the new NFL. High scoring games, little defense and defensive players who can't tackle because it has become a lost art and isn't taught anymore for whatever reason. I loved the defensive monsters of the past but the day's of the steel curtain, the dome patrol, the dooms day defense... well they are dead and gone I'm afraid.

SaintsRule11 · 10-17-2011, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

We have been rebuilding the D line since Payton got here... Hell look at what we did this last off season and they were all excited about what they got done and its all for NOT.

Don't get me wrong we should be constantly rebuilding with the state of the NFL these days but when they pass out the Cool-Aid and I get diet coke then I am going to give them back a serving of hater-aide.

We aren't talking one bad game for the D we are talking 6-7 bad games in a row now. I don't think we should tolerate the same product year in and year out on that field.

Making a change sooner than later is way better. Gibbs was kept around way longer than he should have.

Although I share your frustration and anger, we are not talking about 6 bad games in a row. The Saints defense was excellent against the Bears and the Jaguars. Unfortunately, the Saints defense was truly awful against the Texans, the Packers, the Panthers, and now the Buccaneers.

Mardigras9 · 10-17-2011, 07:21 PM

The defense has been unable to shut the other teams down enough in the end when we need them to and Drew has to keep pulling 4th quarter game-winning drives, which he almost did again w/the bucs. That is not a formula for success. Defense shows signs of life and then seems to go soft on 3rd downs. They have to get better pressure from the front four. However, nobody's Defense is standing out this year in the other top teams either.

Belair57 · 10-17-2011, 08:18 PM

Euph lost yer mind man....(see what I did there)

10-17-2011, 04:14 PM	#61
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	The team collectively lost.. The Defense and Offense Sucked, Yes im going to include Drew Brees, his Bright spots were overshadowed by his terrible, terrible error's, he was Freeman's Mentor a few years back and Freeman i guess learned to not force a throw if it could result in a turnover while Drew Brees forgot what he taught him.. The student beat the teacher and i feel freakin sick to my stomach for even typing this. SaintsRule11 likes this.

10-17-2011, 04:35 PM	#62
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by Saintswrath he was Freeman's Mentor a few years back and Freeman i guess learned to not force a throw if it could result in a turnover while Drew Brees forgot what he taught him.. You must have missed Josh Freeman last week, and well, pretty much the entire season. Freeman 2011 - 5 TD's, 6 INTS, 62% Comp% and 78.2 Passer rating Brees 2011 - 13 TD's, 8 INTS, 68% Comp% and 97 passer rating The student ain't even close yet.

10-17-2011, 06:06 PM	#63
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	We have been rebuilding the D line since Payton got here... Hell look at what we did this last off season and they were all excited about what they got done and its all for NOT. Don't get me wrong we should be constantly rebuilding with the state of the NFL these days but when they pass out the Cool-Aid and I get diet coke then I am going to give them back a serving of hater-aide. We aren't talking one bad game for the D we are talking 6-7 bad games in a row now. I don't think we should tolerate the same product year in and year out on that field. Making a change sooner than later is way better. Gibbs was kept around way longer than he should have. SaintsRule11 likes this.
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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Originally Posted by Danno While the defense played bad, they only gave up 6 points in the 2nd half. The offense was equally to blame in ths one, specifically the O-line. True but the D has stunk it up pretty bad all year. (Except Chi.) I wouldn't want to fire the guy in the middle of the season but I really would like to see a new DC next year. SaintsRule11 likes this.

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AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Divisive week, that's for sure. Everyone just fed up with underperformance. I been saying' we need a break out game! Glad to be here, through it all. Alaska SaintsRule11 likes this.

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jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 692	Actually, I think it's time to accept the fact that this is the new NFL. High scoring games, little defense and defensive players who can't tackle because it has become a lost art and isn't taught anymore for whatever reason. I loved the defensive monsters of the past but the day's of the steel curtain, the dome patrol, the dooms day defense... well they are dead and gone I'm afraid. Boutte and strato like this.

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SaintsRule11 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 277	Originally Posted by Euphoria We have been rebuilding the D line since Payton got here... Hell look at what we did this last off season and they were all excited about what they got done and its all for NOT. Don't get me wrong we should be constantly rebuilding with the state of the NFL these days but when they pass out the Cool-Aid and I get diet coke then I am going to give them back a serving of hater-aide. We aren't talking one bad game for the D we are talking 6-7 bad games in a row now. I don't think we should tolerate the same product year in and year out on that field. Making a change sooner than later is way better. Gibbs was kept around way longer than he should have. Although I share your frustration and anger, we are not talking about 6 bad games in a row. The Saints defense was excellent against the Bears and the Jaguars. Unfortunately, the Saints defense was truly awful against the Texans, the Packers, the Panthers, and now the Buccaneers.
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10-17-2011, 07:21 PM	#69
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	The defense has been unable to shut the other teams down enough in the end when we need them to and Drew has to keep pulling 4th quarter game-winning drives, which he almost did again w/the bucs. That is not a formula for success. Defense shows signs of life and then seems to go soft on 3rd downs. They have to get better pressure from the front four. However, nobody's Defense is standing out this year in the other top teams either. SaintsRule11 likes this.

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