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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno Haters gonna hate. LOL!!! ..Not me me im pulling for him ..but im not a Bama homer lol.. we are talking a lot invested here......

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Old 11-14-2011, 03:19 PM   #1
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Haters gonna hate. LOL!!!
..Not me me im pulling for him ..but im not a Bama homer lol.. we are talking a lot invested here...
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:49 PM   #2
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This stat says it all

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I am a bit disappointed... but hopeful...lol

I hope we didn't spend our number one on a short yardage back...I thought he ran wild in the SEC?...
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:54 PM   #3
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I'm just glad he didn't fumble on that play where got stuffed right where Brees handed him the ball.
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Old 11-14-2011, 03:10 PM   #4
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That means we didn't give whichever guy were calling our stud that week... enough carries. When a team rotates players in and out as much as we do, it's not that surprising.

As far as Murray is concerned, I could pull up various of reports on how the media criticized him and saying he doesn't have much to offer... prior to his breakout performances. The Cowboys made an effort to consistently give him the carries to get him in rhythm... the same cannot be said for Ingram. You can't just put the guy in for a carry or two, take him out for the next couple of series and then expect him to run wild over everyone.

With that said, I do feel Ivory is the better option right now. We healthy and active, we make a conscious effort to feed Ivory the ball play after play. Ingram just doesn't have the instincts, vision, and opportunity to be an every down effective back which people are clamoring for him to be right now.

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Old 11-14-2011, 03:17 PM   #5
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That means we didn't give whichever guy were calling our stud that week... enough carries. When a team rotates players in and out as much as we do, it's not that surprising.

As far as Murray is concerned, I could pull up various of reports on how the media criticized him and saying he doesn't have much to offer... prior to his breakout performances. The Cowboys made an effort to consistently give him the carries to get him in rhythm... the same cannot be said for Ingram. You can't just put the guy in for a carry or two, take him out for the next couple of series and then expect him to run wild over everyone.

With that said, I do feel Ivory is the better option right now. We healthy and active, we make a conscious effort to feed Ivory the ball play after play. Ingram just doesn't have the instincts, vision, and opportunity to be an every down effective back which people are clamoring for him to be right now
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Glad you see that...i think Ingram will be ok...we drafted him to be a feature back ..so he better crank it up...or he will be labeled a Heisman bust..Im hoping that he is like Graham..shows flashes this year then tears it up next year....believe me im pulling for him...
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Old 11-14-2011, 03:23 PM   #6
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Ingram moves the ball forward and he's only lost one fumble that I remember. I haven't seen him stutter-stepping in the backfield like Rashard Mendenhall or some other RB wearing #25 that used to play here. And he's had many runs where he has broke tackles and fell forward for 5-6 yards where he should've only picked up 1 or 2 yards. His pass protection and catching the ball has been adequate when called upon, at least for a rookie. I think eventually he will break off some 40+ yard power run for a TD, the law of averages has been working against him so far.

My final point is - if you were a coach, what would you tell him that he's consistently doing wrong? I can't come up with anything.
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Ingram moves the ball forward and he's only lost one fumble that I remember. I haven't seen him stutter-stepping in the backfield like Rashard Mendenhall or some other RB wearing #25 that used to play here. And he's had many runs where he has broke tackles and fell forward for 5-6 yards where he should've only picked up 1 or 2 yards. His pass protection and catching the ball has been adequate when called upon, at least for a rookie. I think eventually he will break off some 40+ yard power run for a TD, the law of averages has been working against him so far.

My final point is - if you were a coach, what would you tell him that he's consistently doing wrong? I can't come up with anything.
He has power...lacks vision.. that would be the thing i would work on with him..the holes close a lot quicker than they did against Ole Miss...
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