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Mardigras9 · 11-17-2011, 03:09 PM

Glad we have the problem of too many RB's. Guess the O-line is to blame for the lack of a running game thus far. Ingram got my attention late in the fourth against Atlanta when he got got hammered in the backfield from a missed block and HELD on to the ball. And again in OT when when he picked up 6 setting us up for the winning FG. Ivory has a tendency to put the ball on the turf. Can't really say who is better or more valuable at this point. Ingram needs to find his lanes quicker and learn to alter his path when the lane closes, he seems to bounce of the O-lines backs alot.

Rugby Saint II · 11-18-2011, 01:43 PM

You know this is a problem that we can address at our next conference.........meanwhile, let's take a week or two off to think about it.

SaintsBro · 11-18-2011, 05:00 PM

This sure does beat debating the merits of DeShawn Wynn versus Julius Jones, I'll give you guys that much!

CantonLegend · 11-18-2011, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Glad we have the problem of too many RB's. Guess the O-line is to blame for the lack of a running game thus far. Ingram got my attention late in the fourth against Atlanta when he got got hammered in the backfield from a missed block and HELD on to the ball. And again in OT when when he picked up 6 setting us up for the winning FG. Ivory has a tendency to put the ball on the turf. Can't really say who is better or more valuable at this point. Ingram needs to find his lanes quicker and learn to alter his path when the lane closes, he seems to bounce of the O-lines backs alot.

watch these videos then blame the line for a lack of running game. we are a good running team and its mostly because of our offensive line. anybody that thinks we cant run the ball doesnt know what they are talking about

btw these videos arent mine. they were posted by someone else on everybody's other favorite site

running game 1 - YouTube

draws - YouTube

itwins - YouTube

itight - YouTube

AlaskaSaints · 11-18-2011, 06:56 PM

Shades of...

well...

SHADE!

No disrespect, Canton, but that was agonizing. I'm not 'beefing' you, just calling it like I see it.

I want a dominant running game with the stable we have.

Alaska

saintfan · 11-18-2011, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Shades of...

well...

SHADE!

No disrespect, Canton, but that was agonizing. I'm not 'beefing' you, just calling it like I see it.

I want a dominant running game with the stable we have.

Alaska

If our line could run block worth a damn from one play to the next we'd have one.

Belair57 · 11-18-2011, 10:22 PM

ingram is better than Reggie at hittin the hole, so Im happy. ...Hes not the next Emmit Smith or anything, but dang, its his first year, cmon, was he supposed to break a thousand while sharing the rock with three others?

saintfan · 11-18-2011, 11:18 PM

If Ingram was running behind the kind of line Emmit was running behind things would be different. Emmit wasn't running in to too many people in the backfield like Ingram has.

CantonLegend · 11-19-2011, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

If our line could run block worth a damn from one play to the next we'd have one.

watch the videos i posted......3 and 4 yards a pop is about as dominant as you can get when you only hand the ball off 20 times a game

Budsdrinker · 11-21-2011, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

watch the videos i posted......3 and 4 yards a pop is about as dominant as you can get when you only hand the ball off 20 times a game

The thing I noticed in the videos and granted I didn't watch all of it is that when we had the running success in the early part of the season, we were running the ball with 4 receiver sets and out of the gun. Defenses have to respect the pass when in those formations. Lately we have just been trying to run out of strictly power run formations which the defense reads and loads up the box. Maybe it was because of Payton's injury and Carmichael calling the plays but we need to go back to that style of play calling and keep defenses guessing. I know I've said this many of times now and even in a post earlier this morning but those videos you posted backs me up on this.

11-17-2011, 03:09 PM	#31
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Glad we have the problem of too many RB's. Guess the O-line is to blame for the lack of a running game thus far. Ingram got my attention late in the fourth against Atlanta when he got got hammered in the backfield from a missed block and HELD on to the ball. And again in OT when when he picked up 6 setting us up for the winning FG. Ivory has a tendency to put the ball on the turf. Can't really say who is better or more valuable at this point. Ingram needs to find his lanes quicker and learn to alter his path when the lane closes, he seems to bounce of the O-lines backs alot.
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11-18-2011, 06:57 PM	#36
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Shades of... well... SHADE! No disrespect, Canton, but that was agonizing. I'm not 'beefing' you, just calling it like I see it. I want a dominant running game with the stable we have. Alaska If our line could run block worth a damn from one play to the next we'd have one.

11-18-2011, 10:22 PM	#37
Belair57 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 848	ingram is better than Reggie at hittin the hole, so Im happy. ...Hes not the next Emmit Smith or anything, but dang, its his first year, cmon, was he supposed to break a thousand while sharing the rock with three others?
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11-19-2011, 01:24 PM	#39
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by saintfan If our line could run block worth a damn from one play to the next we'd have one. watch the videos i posted......3 and 4 yards a pop is about as dominant as you can get when you only hand the ball off 20 times a game

11-21-2011, 10:14 AM	#40
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Originally Posted by CantonLegend watch the videos i posted......3 and 4 yards a pop is about as dominant as you can get when you only hand the ball off 20 times a game The thing I noticed in the videos and granted I didn't watch all of it is that when we had the running success in the early part of the season, we were running the ball with 4 receiver sets and out of the gun. Defenses have to respect the pass when in those formations. Lately we have just been trying to run out of strictly power run formations which the defense reads and loads up the box. Maybe it was because of Payton's injury and Carmichael calling the plays but we need to go back to that style of play calling and keep defenses guessing. I know I've said this many of times now and even in a post earlier this morning but those videos you posted backs me up on this.

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AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Shades of... well... SHADE! No disrespect, Canton, but that was agonizing. I'm not 'beefing' you, just calling it like I see it. I want a dominant running game with the stable we have. Alaska

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	If Ingram was running behind the kind of line Emmit was running behind things would be different. Emmit wasn't running in to too many people in the backfield like Ingram has.

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