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saintfan · 11-18-2011, 10:18 PM

If Ingram was running behind the kind of line Emmit was running behind things would be different. Emmit wasn't running in to too many people in the backfield like Ingram has.

mighty12 · 11-21-2011, 11:12 AM

I am still wondering what I am suppose to see differently in the videos that were posted. Here is what I DID see, the Oline get beat at the point of attack, not able to push off blocks and hit the next level(especially on draw plays where down field blocking is crucial.) once the back gets to the line of scrimmage he is hit by 3 defenders and has to churn forward to make any yards. But let's not blame just the Oline, we have backs who apparently lack vision. There were many plays where the RB could have cut back for a huge gain, but choose to drop his head in a pile of defenders for minimal yardage. From top to bottom we lack a consistent running game. But hey what do I know, I'm just a fan.

CantonLegend · 11-21-2011, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

I am still wondering what I am suppose to see differently in the videos that were posted. Here is what I DID see, the Oline get beat at the point of attack, not able to push off blocks and hit the next level(especially on draw plays where down field blocking is crucial.) once the back gets to the line of scrimmage he is hit by 3 defenders and has to churn forward to make any yards. But let's not blame just the Oline, we have backs who apparently lack vision. There were many plays where the RB could have cut back for a huge gain, but choose to drop his head in a pile of defenders for minimal yardage. From top to bottom we lack a consistent running game. But hey what do I know, I'm just a fan.

alright then heres what you should be looking for because apparently even when i post videos of the line doing its job you still dont know what you're seeing.......

the lines job is not to blow ppl off the ball. the lines job is to make contact with the defenders and keep them off the ball carrier. they dont have to push a guy backwards to do that. most of the time all they have to do is turn their seats and create an alley for the running back to run through

running plays are not designed to get 10 yards. they are designed to get 3 to 5 yards because you cant possibly block everybody on one play. what you see in these videos is a lot of 3 to 4 yard gains in which we use carl nicks' elite skills to pop off successful runs

nicks is seen often in these videos reaching for linebackers and pulling to the inside of the right side of the line in order to give the running back a big lead blocker to follow

in only a handful of runs in those videos do the backs actually get stuffed and very few if any do the backs get caught behind the line

linemen are not going to push 350lb defensive linemen backwards....what they are going to do is catch them before they make a move and turn their seat so they can create a seam for the backs to get through

no wonder ppl complain so much about the line....this is why i say you guys dont know what you're talking about

Danno · 11-21-2011, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

....this is why i say you guys dont know what you're talking about

Coming from the guy who swore, this year, that Kreutz was doing well, and Stinchcomb was one of the best RT's in the NFL?

You have no credibility whatsoever and to claim others don't know what they're talking about points directly to you being a absolutely clueless boob.

You're a troll, and you probably don't even realize it.

CantonLegend · 11-21-2011, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Coming from the guy who swore, this year, that Kreutz was doing well, and Stinchcomb was one of the best RT's in the NFL?

You have no credibility whatsoever and to claim others don't know what they're talking about points directly to you being a absolutely clueless boob.

You're a troll, and you probably don't even realize it.

kreutz was doing well and stinch was one of the best RTs in the league

you really wanna do this again?

i dont have to impress you to know what im talking about but if you show those videos to some people that know anything about football they will agree with me about our blocking. being a loud fan that goes to the games or talks a lot on forums doesnt mean you know anything about football

take a couple weeks off the site....away from espn.....away from the dumb fan who think they know what they are talking about

read some books. hang out with some coaches.....then come back and see if you've changed your mind about our blocking

it only takes one loud idiot to change the perception of the masses......dont be the guy that leads them in the wrong direction

Danno · 11-21-2011, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

kreutz was doing well and stinch was one of the best RTs in the league

you really wanna do this again?

If you wanna make a fool of yourself again go right ahead.

saintfan · 11-21-2011, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

no wonder ppl complain so much about the line....this is why i say you guys dont know what you're talking about

And this is why you aren't very well received here. You don't know a damn thing more about it than anybody else. You're a wannabe. Period.

Are you here to educate us with all your high school football knowledge? Or are you just here to start ****? You really think people expect 40 yards every touch? Really? Well then why don't you go back under whichever rock you popped out from...go back to that place where everyone treats you like the o-line rock star you make yourself out to be, because with your attitude things aren't going to get any friendlier for you here? PLEASE. Is please enough?

CantonLegend · 11-21-2011, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

And this is why you aren't very well received here. You don't know a damn thing more about it than anybody else. You're a wannabe. Period.

Are you here to educate us with all your high school football knowledge? Or are you just here to start ****? You really think people expect 40 yards every touch? Really? Well then why don't you go back under whichever rock you popped out from...go back to that place where everyone treats you like the o-line rock star you make yourself out to be, because with your attitude things aren't going to get any friendlier for you here? PLEASE. Is please enough?

I posted videos of the line doing very well and you still think they are videos of them doing poorly. You don't know what ur talking about because you don't know what ur watching

It's baffling and the iq level here continues to drop because of posts like urs and a few others. I'd love to talk with some ppl that can have an intelligent football conversation but it's apparently not going to happen

What is in those videos specifically that shows the line playing poorly? Please explain. I'd love to hear you teach me something about the line's job that I don't know better than you

|Mitch| · 11-21-2011, 08:32 PM

Canton; come on, man!

You say you want intelligent conversation, but I see you criticizing and pretty much calling other members idiots in just about every thread you post in...

I'd like to read and understand your football "knowledge", but hard to get through all the other "nonsense"...

saintfan · 11-21-2011, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

I posted videos of the line doing very well and you still think they are videos of them doing poorly. You don't know what ur talking about because you don't know what ur watching

It's baffling and the iq level here continues to drop because of posts like urs and a few others. I'd love to talk with some ppl that can have an intelligent football conversation but it's apparently not going to happen

What is in those videos specifically that shows the line playing poorly? Please explain. I'd love to hear you teach me something about the line's job that I don't know better than you

Dude you don't know how to have the kind of conversation you say you're looking for...and what's sad is that you don't even know it. I know people like you. They're on medication.

Whether I'm right or wrong has no bearing on the fact that you're a horses ass. That's it. That is all.

So let's just say you're right okay. There's nobody here as smart as you and therefore you can't have an intelligent football conversation here.

Okay. You win. We've established that you know more than the rest of us combined. Is that good enough? Would you please just go ahead and delete your account and let the rest of us get back to discussing things in a pleasant manner?

See ya bud. Don't let the doorknob hit ya on the way out.

11-21-2011, 11:12 AM	#2
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	I am still wondering what I am suppose to see differently in the videos that were posted. Here is what I DID see, the Oline get beat at the point of attack, not able to push off blocks and hit the next level(especially on draw plays where down field blocking is crucial.) once the back gets to the line of scrimmage he is hit by 3 defenders and has to churn forward to make any yards. But let's not blame just the Oline, we have backs who apparently lack vision. There were many plays where the RB could have cut back for a huge gain, but choose to drop his head in a pile of defenders for minimal yardage. From top to bottom we lack a consistent running game. But hey what do I know, I'm just a fan. saintfan and strato like this.

11-21-2011, 02:02 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by mighty12 I am still wondering what I am suppose to see differently in the videos that were posted. Here is what I DID see, the Oline get beat at the point of attack, not able to push off blocks and hit the next level(especially on draw plays where down field blocking is crucial.) once the back gets to the line of scrimmage he is hit by 3 defenders and has to churn forward to make any yards. But let's not blame just the Oline, we have backs who apparently lack vision. There were many plays where the RB could have cut back for a huge gain, but choose to drop his head in a pile of defenders for minimal yardage. From top to bottom we lack a consistent running game. But hey what do I know, I'm just a fan. alright then heres what you should be looking for because apparently even when i post videos of the line doing its job you still dont know what you're seeing....... the lines job is not to blow ppl off the ball. the lines job is to make contact with the defenders and keep them off the ball carrier. they dont have to push a guy backwards to do that. most of the time all they have to do is turn their seats and create an alley for the running back to run through running plays are not designed to get 10 yards. they are designed to get 3 to 5 yards because you cant possibly block everybody on one play. what you see in these videos is a lot of 3 to 4 yard gains in which we use carl nicks' elite skills to pop off successful runs nicks is seen often in these videos reaching for linebackers and pulling to the inside of the right side of the line in order to give the running back a big lead blocker to follow in only a handful of runs in those videos do the backs actually get stuffed and very few if any do the backs get caught behind the line linemen are not going to push 350lb defensive linemen backwards....what they are going to do is catch them before they make a move and turn their seat so they can create a seam for the backs to get through no wonder ppl complain so much about the line....this is why i say you guys dont know what you're talking about
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

11-21-2011, 02:09 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Originally Posted by CantonLegend ....this is why i say you guys dont know what you're talking about Coming from the guy who swore, this year, that Kreutz was doing well, and Stinchcomb was one of the best RT's in the NFL? You have no credibility whatsoever and to claim others don't know what they're talking about points directly to you being a absolutely clueless boob. You're a troll, and you probably don't even realize it. saintfan likes this.

11-21-2011, 02:18 PM	#5
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Danno Coming from the guy who swore, this year, that Kreutz was doing well, and Stinchcomb was one of the best RT's in the NFL? You have no credibility whatsoever and to claim others don't know what they're talking about points directly to you being a absolutely clueless boob. You're a troll, and you probably don't even realize it. kreutz was doing well and stinch was one of the best RTs in the league you really wanna do this again? i dont have to impress you to know what im talking about but if you show those videos to some people that know anything about football they will agree with me about our blocking. being a loud fan that goes to the games or talks a lot on forums doesnt mean you know anything about football take a couple weeks off the site....away from espn.....away from the dumb fan who think they know what they are talking about read some books. hang out with some coaches.....then come back and see if you've changed your mind about our blocking it only takes one loud idiot to change the perception of the masses......dont be the guy that leads them in the wrong direction foreverfan likes this.
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

11-21-2011, 02:26 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Originally Posted by CantonLegend kreutz was doing well and stinch was one of the best RTs in the league you really wanna do this again? If you wanna make a fool of yourself again go right ahead. iceshack149 and foreverfan like this.

11-18-2011, 10:18 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	If Ingram was running behind the kind of line Emmit was running behind things would be different. Emmit wasn't running in to too many people in the backfield like Ingram has.

11-21-2011, 03:44 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by CantonLegend no wonder ppl complain so much about the line....this is why i say you guys dont know what you're talking about And this is why you aren't very well received here. You don't know a damn thing more about it than anybody else. You're a wannabe. Period. Are you here to educate us with all your high school football knowledge? Or are you just here to start ****? You really think people expect 40 yards every touch? Really? Well then why don't you go back under whichever rock you popped out from...go back to that place where everyone treats you like the o-line rock star you make yourself out to be, because with your attitude things aren't going to get any friendlier for you here? PLEASE. Is please enough? iceshack149 and foreverfan like this.
	C'mon Man... Last edited by saintfan; 11-21-2011 at 05:19 PM..

11-21-2011, 08:24 PM	#8
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by saintfan And this is why you aren't very well received here. You don't know a damn thing more about it than anybody else. You're a wannabe. Period. Are you here to educate us with all your high school football knowledge? Or are you just here to start ****? You really think people expect 40 yards every touch? Really? Well then why don't you go back under whichever rock you popped out from...go back to that place where everyone treats you like the o-line rock star you make yourself out to be, because with your attitude things aren't going to get any friendlier for you here? PLEASE. Is please enough? I posted videos of the line doing very well and you still think they are videos of them doing poorly. You don't know what ur talking about because you don't know what ur watching It's baffling and the iq level here continues to drop because of posts like urs and a few others. I'd love to talk with some ppl that can have an intelligent football conversation but it's apparently not going to happen What is in those videos specifically that shows the line playing poorly? Please explain. I'd love to hear you teach me something about the line's job that I don't know better than you
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

11-21-2011, 08:32 PM	#9
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Canton; come on, man! You say you want intelligent conversation, but I see you criticizing and pretty much calling other members idiots in just about every thread you post in... I'd like to read and understand your football "knowledge", but hard to get through all the other "nonsense"...

11-21-2011, 10:12 PM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by CantonLegend I posted videos of the line doing very well and you still think they are videos of them doing poorly. You don't know what ur talking about because you don't know what ur watching It's baffling and the iq level here continues to drop because of posts like urs and a few others. I'd love to talk with some ppl that can have an intelligent football conversation but it's apparently not going to happen What is in those videos specifically that shows the line playing poorly? Please explain. I'd love to hear you teach me something about the line's job that I don't know better than you Dude you don't know how to have the kind of conversation you say you're looking for...and what's sad is that you don't even know it. I know people like you. They're on medication. Whether I'm right or wrong has no bearing on the fact that you're a horses ass. That's it. That is all. So let's just say you're right okay. There's nobody here as smart as you and therefore you can't have an intelligent football conversation here. Okay. You win. We've established that you know more than the rest of us combined. Is that good enough? Would you please just go ahead and delete your account and let the rest of us get back to discussing things in a pleasant manner? See ya bud. Don't let the doorknob hit ya on the way out.
	C'mon Man...

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