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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by alexonfyre Brees isn't allowed to comment on this AT ALL, seriously. Educate yourselves. Sorry bro,.... I'm not an agent and didn't know these things...

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Old 03-07-2012, 08:38 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by alexonfyre View Post
Brees isn't allowed to comment on this AT ALL, seriously. Educate yourselves.
Sorry bro,.... I'm not an agent and didn't know these things
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:42 PM   #2
 
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I'm done with this ****.Get it done and over with Pay-Loo!
Drew is livid
Drew is confident a deal will be worked out
Drew has gotten greedy
Drew do us a favor clear your head of all this bull**** and get ready to suit up spartan!


This has really frustrated me to no end!Please excuse me for the following emoticon.






P.S thanks for the sanity Who-Dats I'm beginning to lose mine

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Old 03-07-2012, 09:02 PM   #3
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Thanks Guido. Jamessr. WhoDat656.

I do not like fans here turning on Brees.
Why should he not get paid his worth?
Why?
Umm, how many other teams out there would pay him his worth? 31. Ok, not all 31 teams out there need him, but there are quite a few that would jump at the chance to get him.

Brees has been a good ambassador for New Orleans on and off the field. Brees has said in interviews he wants to end his career with the Saints. He is raising his family in N.O. Even after his Saints days, provided he is paid, I would not be surprised if he stays on in N.O. Big fish , small pond thing.

I don't like fans turning on him. He is the only real qb, successful one we ever had.
People here are always knocking Aaron Brooks. I posted the yesterday that they forget to knock: Bobby Hebert, John Fourcade, Richard Todd ( I still cannot figure out not taking Warren Moon, and taking Richard Todd.), 2nd qb Dave Wilson with Kenny Stabler. Stabler was at the end of his career. Jim Everett stopped over at the Saints to pick up some money at the end of his career.
The list of Saints so-so, mediocre qbs' consists of every qb we ever had.

Saints need to pay Brees well in a good, tight contract for two years.
I think he has a good two years left. I think the Saints have a good playoffs and SB try for this year. After that, we are going to be on the rebuilding end.
Right now, this team under SeanP and his staff seem to be refilling spots with really good, key people like Graham, Sproles.
Spags as DC seems like a good choice.

These good years of the Saints will not last. They don't last for any team. Ask Jerry Jones. Lets enjoy these years while they last.
I remember all the bad years. I have not been to a Saints game since the early, maybe mid 1990's.
I had access to season tickets from 1977 to early/mid 1990's.
Some of those were sad years. Even the good years, well, I had no idea, LOL, like many Saints 'fans, 9-7, 8-8, Wild Card Playoff , etc. was not that great. The days of wishing, depending on if X team lost in that division and Y team won in that division, well, then the Saints could secure a Wild Card PO game.
Oh gosh!

Pay Brees!!!!!
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:43 PM   #4
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Wait & see is the name of the game. Remember these are the opinions of the talking heads/pundints. Opinion is the key word here. None of it is based on any facts that I have heard yet.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:49 PM   #5
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Wait & see is the name of the game. Remember these are the opinion of the talking heads/pundints. Opinion is the key word here. None of it is based on any facts that I have heard yet.
True. I take it personal for the group as a whole when we are being told we're stupid. We don't understand. We're being counter-productive. We need to shut the hell up. Excuse me?

If I hire a realtor to sell my house, am I going to review the offers I get or am I going to tell the agent to do what he feels is best? You bet your ass I'm going to review them...very carefully in fact. I will seek the opinion of the agent of course, but I'm in charge. Period.

And would the agent bother to tell me I just got an offer that is more than the history of any other offer in the history of the neighborhood or would he choose to hide that offer from me because he was hopeful of an even better offer? Of course he would tell me. He'd tell me or I'd fire his ass. LOL

This thinking that Drew's agent has complete control and that Drew might potentially not even know how much we offered is, well...that's just nuts. If Drew were unhappy with his agent's performance of COURSE he could fire him, even though it has been suggested here that he can't. That's crap on a stick.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:56 PM   #6
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True. I take it personal for the group as a whole when we are being told we're stupid. We don't understand. We're being counter-productive. We need to shut the hell up. Excuse me?

If I hire a realtor to sell my house, am I going to review the offers I get or am I going to tell the agent to do what he feels is best? You bet your ass I'm going to review them...very carefully in fact. I will seek the opinion of the agent of course, but I'm in charge. Period.

And would the agent bother to tell me I just got an offer that is more than the history of any other offer in the history of the neighborhood. Of course he would. LOL

This thinking that Drew's agent has complete control and that Drew might potentially not even know how much we offered is, well...that's just nuts. If Drew were unhappy with his agent's performance of COURSE he could fire him, even though it has been suggested here that he can't. That's crap on a stick.
And if your agent tells you that he can get 30% more than that value? And he has a track record of doing so for other people? And people call him the most powerful man in his industry? and you are going to say no 6 months before you are even planning to move? Come on now. Maybe the idea that Drew doesn't know the offer isn't realistic, but the idea that Tom Condon isn't running the show right now is equally so.
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And if your agent tells you that he can get 30% more than that value? And he has a track record of doing so for other people? And people call him the most powerful man in his industry? and you are going to say no 6 months before you are even planning to move? Come on now. Maybe the idea that Drew doesn't know the offer isn't realistic, but the idea that Tom Condon isn't running the show right now is equally so.

This is exactly the point I was trying to make to AsylumGuido the other day, but he refused to accept it. Naturally, the agent (Condon in this case) is the one who is handling the negotiations while Brees may have no direct contact with the Saints.

But, at the same time, I would be amazed if Brees has handed him total control over the said negotiations as AG has stated numerous times - of course he has the final say-so on the big decisions regarding the contract.

And to come back to your comment alexonfyre, which I quoted above: many of us here have put Brees on a pedestal, which in hindsight was our mistake and shouldn't take anything away from Brees. But, because he is so highly regarded by us and when we read comments from him that state that he wants to keep the team competitive - it's hard to not be disappointed when he turns down contracts that would've made him the highest payed player in the league, simply because he wants more.

Now, this might be just a skewed perception of the negotiations, and I accept the fact that I don't know the details of what goes on behind the closed doors, but to suggest that Brees has no responsibility over what course the negotiations have taken is just something I can't agree with.

To reference the example you gave, Brees could've told Condon at that point - when the agent tells the client he can get him 30% more - to just take what they're offering now, because he doesn't need all that money and would rather see other key FAs signed as well.

I guess that is how my made-up imaginary Drew Brees would've handled this situation, but alas that version of him doesn't exist and I can't hold that against the real version. Still, the whole situation has made me disappointed and that is another thing I can't help.

By the way, saintfan I thought that your earlier comments were on point and I agree with almost all of which you stated.

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many of us here have put Brees on a pedestal, which in hindsight was our mistake and shouldn't take anything away from Brees.
More like a skyscraper...
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This thread is giving me gas. I'm going to bed.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:29 PM   #10
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Ok so at what point does Drew step in say, What The Hell Is Going on ?
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