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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you not have a clue? Brees isn't doing any of this. It is Tom Condon, his agent. The player agrees to be TOTALLY hands off once contract negotiations begin. You can try to be pissed ...

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Old 03-07-2012, 10:04 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Do you not have a clue? Brees isn't doing any of this. It is Tom Condon, his agent. The player agrees to be TOTALLY hands off once contract negotiations begin. You can try to be pissed at Condon if you wish, but he's just doing his job, too.

As I have tried to explain on this board many times, Condon represents Carl Nicks, as well. Condon surely knew that the Saints could not absorb a $24 million hit per year for the first three years of a contract. He did that to force the Saints to use the tag on Brees, thus letting his other client, Nicks, hit the open market.

A deal will get done.

Grow up, y'all. Get with the program. These things are not as simple as you might think.

I am ashamed to read this crap y'all are spouting with no clue how things work. Do you want to drive Drew away? Keep this **** up.

He has already leaked word that he feels confident a deal will be made. I'm sure that Condon wasn't happy about that.

Dammit, get with the program. Support the team and our QB. They will be together for years to come.

The player 'agrees' right up to the point where he disagrees. Agents are fired all the time. Nobody here thinks it's 'simple'. Fact is if Drew wanted this to be over it would be over. Agent or no agent. You CANNOT relieve Drew of any responsibility. This particular agent wasn't assigned to Drew. Drew chose HIM, and he has a reputation for what we are witnessing, the agent I mean.

What's to stop Drew from saying, "look, I don't feel right holding the team hostage like this. They have offered me a contract that makes me the highest paid player in the history of the league. I want to sign it."

Are you really suggesting that his agent is in total control and that Drew is merely at his agent's mercy? If that's what you think then, yeah, somebody doesn't have a clue alright.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:12 PM   #2
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The player 'agrees' right up to the point where he disagrees. Agents are fired all the time. Nobody here thinks it's 'simple'. Fact is if Drew wanted this to be over it would be over. Agent or no agent. You CANNOT relieve Drew of any responsibility. This particular agent wasn't assigned to Drew. Drew chose HIM, and he has a reputation for what we are witnessing, the agent I mean.

What's to stop Drew from saying, "look, I don't feel right holding the team hostage like this. They have offered me a contract that makes me the highest paid player in the history of the league. I want to sign it."

Are you really suggesting that his agent is in total control and that Drew is merely at his agent's mercy? If that's what you think then, yeah, somebody doesn't have a clue alright.
The team is not being held hostage. Nothing is going on that doesn't happen all the time in negotiations. It just happens to be with your team this time.It has been only two frickin' days since the franchise deadline hit. They have until July 15th to work out the deal.

All of this hate from y'all is counter-productive. I'm not meaning to be rude by saying this, but people need to just shut the hell up and let things work themselves out.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:34 PM   #3
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The team is not being held hostage. Nothing is going on that doesn't happen all the time in negotiations. It just happens to be with your team this time.It has been only two frickin' days since the franchise deadline hit. They have until July 15th to work out the deal.

All of this hate from y'all is counter-productive. I'm not meaning to be rude by saying this, but people need to just shut the hell up and let things work themselves out.
I'm not stupid or full of crap or any of the other stuff you've laid out. You're not telling me anything I'm not fully aware of. I've been watching professional sports nearly 40 years.

I'm not meaning to be rude either. But any assessment of this situation that suggests that Drew has no responsibility and that it's all on his agent is crap, if you'll forgive me for saying so.

And I'm not hating. I'm making no assumptions. I don't assume to know what Drew is thinking. All I know is he's been offered the richest contract in the history of the NFL and he refused to sign it. I don't know why. What I DO know is that his agent isn't stopping him. That's the most ignorant thing I've heard up to now. Drew pays his agent. It's not the other way around.

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Old 03-07-2012, 10:39 PM   #4
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I'm not stupid or full of crap or any of the other stuff you've laid out. You're not telling me anything I'm not fully aware of. I've been watching professional sports nearly 40 years.

I'm not meaning to be rude either. But any assessment of this situation that suggests that Drew has no responsibility and that it's all on his agent is crap, if you'll forgive me for saying so.

And I'm not hating. I'm making no assumptions. I don't assume to know what Drew is thinking. All I know is he's been offered the richest contract in the history of the NFL and he refused to sign it. I don't know why. What I DO know is that his agent is stopping him. That's the most ignorant thing I've heard up to now. Drew pays his agent. It's not the other way around.
If Condon didn't tell Drew what the offer was (which he doesn't need to unless Drew asks,) then he probably doesn't know. In fact, the more I read about Condon, the more I think he is the type of guy who tells his clients straight up "Don't ask me about offers, and don't let anyone tell you. I will bring it to you when I think it is appropriate."
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If Condon didn't tell Drew what the offer was (which he doesn't need to unless Drew asks,) then he probably doesn't know. In fact, the more I read about Condon, the more I think he is the type of guy who tells his clients straight up "Don't ask me about offers, and don't let anyone tell you. I will bring it to you when I think it is appropriate."
If you don't think Drew knows what the value of the offer on the table is then I don't know what to say to you. Believe what you want to I guess.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:22 PM   #6
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The player 'agrees' right up to the point where he disagrees. Agents are fired all the time. Nobody here thinks it's 'simple'. Fact is if Drew wanted this to be over it would be over. Agent or no agent. You CANNOT relieve Drew of any responsibility. This particular agent wasn't assigned to Drew. Drew chose HIM, and he has a reputation for what we are witnessing, the agent I mean.

What's to stop Drew from saying, "look, I don't feel right holding the team hostage like this. They have offered me a contract that makes me the highest paid player in the history of the league. I want to sign it."

Are you really suggesting that his agent is in total control and that Drew is merely at his agent's mercy? If that's what you think then, yeah, somebody doesn't have a clue alright.
Actually yeah. If you break your leg in a store, and your attorney, who you hired for his reputation of being one of the best, is handling it, do you let him handle it, or do you take matters in to your own hands and settle the case yourself?
Until Drew starts having to sit out of workouts and practices, he will probably consider everything Condon says as the correct course of action.
Seeing as most of the people here don't have the first clue as to how any of these negotiations happen, I don't see how any of you can say "Drew should know better than his agent how this should be going, why doesn't he fire him?" That makes no sense whatsoever.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:38 PM   #7
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Actually yeah. If you break your leg in a store, and your attorney, who you hired for his reputation of being one of the best, is handling it, do you let him handle it, or do you take matters in to your own hands and settle the case yourself?
Until Drew starts having to sit out of workouts and practices, he will probably consider everything Condon says as the correct course of action.
Seeing as most of the people here don't have the first clue as to how any of these negotiations happen, I don't see how any of you can say "Drew should know better than his agent how this should be going, why doesn't he fire him?" That makes no sense whatsoever.
BS. The lawyer recommends, but you're a fool if you're not keeping yourself well up to speed on what's going on. People fire their lawyers all the time too. So, Ummm, yeah.

I'm not saying "Drew should know better than his agent and that he should fire him". Pay attention. What I AM doing is countering the point where someone is suggesting that Drew is clueless of the situation and is mindlessly allowing his agent to direct this circus.

Based on what I do know about Drew I doubt very seriously he isn't well aware. Seems as though some are suggesting that Drew will only sign when his agent tells him it's okay to do so. Nonsense.
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