Brees selfish turn

Budsdrinker · 03-07-2012, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We did. He rejected an offer that would make him the highest paid player in the entire NFL, TWICE!!!

SIGN THE DAMN THING DREW!!!

And fire Condon!!!!

Budsdrinker · 03-08-2012, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Why is everyone saying Brees is selfish/greedy?

Why isn't anyBrone saying anything about Nicks demanding more money than Evans?

Why isn't anyone saying anything about Colston's 'No hometown discount' quote?

They all are deserve to be paid, but we all know that Brees is the engine that makes the Saints machine work.

I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!!

Probably because what Nicks wants and what Colston wants combined is still less than what the Saints offered Drew!

Beastmode · 03-07-2012, 08:10 PM

lb for lb, Brees is the best QB over the last 6 seasons. Anyway it's disected, he should be the highest paid QB in the NFL. On the other hand, QB is just one one position. Give him the loot and the rest of the team suffers. Defense, special teams....Saints will become a one trick poney. Great scoring ability but everything else will be sub par. Pay him what he wants and the reprocussions will be more sacks, busted defensive plays, and more weight for Brees to carry the team on his lonely. With all the endorsements, what difference does a 3-4 million honestly make. The majority of the players aren't getting cough drop and diaper paychecks. I understand the situation but the big picture is, it's a team game, not an idividual effort like baseball as Wade Boggs use to say. He may the best QB in the game but he can't do it by himself.

RaginCajun83 · 03-07-2012, 08:12 PM

More money, more problems

I've tried to stay positive all offseason but Drew's contract and this "bounty" BS sure have made it hard.

He's right, Drew's greed will/could cost the Saints their talented free agents this year

W. Kovacs · 03-07-2012, 08:12 PM

I'm sorry because I know I sound like a broken record with all of my posts lately but I'm sitting here in bed after some face surgery so I'm using my codeine-induced goofiness as an excuse to repeat myself again:

I was raised a Steelers fan. I jumped ship after Roethlisberger started abusing women and the Organization did, essentially, nothing about it.

I thought about bailing on pro-football altogether but I'd always liked Drew Brees; his character, what he means to the city, what he does for the troops...he was the exact opposite of Ben. I felt like he represented everything that football SHOULD be able to do for the community, its fans, etc. Then, right around the time the Ben story broke, I started traveling to New Orleans for work a lot. I got totally caught up in the Super Bowl run and have considered myself a fan since. I've thrown away all my Steelers stuff and my Drew Brees Jersey is the only athlete's jersey I own. I never really liked wearing other guys' jerseys...but it felt appropriate with Drew because he represented so much more than just a guy who could throw a football.

Now, I read stories about Ben restructuring his contract to keep his team together, while Drew can't accept a deal that makes him the highest paid player in the league and will probably result in losing many of the free agents that make up the core of the team.

I am not saying that Ben's willingness to restructure his contract makes everything else he's done okay, nor am I equating Drew's desire for more money with sexual abuse. I'm just saying this has really got me bummed out.

I also recognize that I am not involved with the negotiations and I don't know the whole story. I really hope there is some weird stipulation that is making things unacceptable and it's not just the $$$.

I know I shouldn't be so bummed out. I am too old to be so freaking naive or to be looking up to sports figures (Drew and I are almost exactly the same age). Seeing this stuff just makes me wonder why I bother watching sports at all?

Okay...thanks for reading...going to go pass out now...

\S/

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2012, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

I'm sorry because I know I sound like a broken record with all of my posts lately but I'm sitting here in bed after some face surgery so I'm using my codeine-induced goofiness as an excuse to repeat myself again:

I was raised a Steelers fan. I jumped ship after Roethlisberger started abusing women and the Organization did, essentially, nothing about it.

I thought about bailing on pro-football altogether but I'd always liked Drew Brees; his character, what he means to the city, what he does for the troops...he was the exact opposite of Ben. I felt like he represented everything that football SHOULD be able to do for the community, its fans, etc. Then, right around the time the Ben story broke, I started traveling to New Orleans for work a lot. I got totally caught up in the Super Bowl run and have considered myself a fan since. I've thrown away all my Steelers stuff and my Drew Brees Jersey is the only athlete's jersey I own. I never really liked wearing other guys' jerseys...but it felt appropriate with Drew because he represented so much more than just a guy who could throw a football.

Now, I read stories about Ben restructuring his contract to keep his team together, while Drew can't accept a deal that makes him the highest paid player in the league and will probably result in losing many of the free agents that make up the core of the team.

I am not saying that Ben's willingness to restructure his contract makes everything else he's done okay, nor am I equating Drew's desire for more money with sexual abuse. I'm just saying this has really got me bummed out.

I also recognize that I am not involved with the negotiations and I don't know the whole story. I really hope there is some weird stipulation that is making things unacceptable and it's not just the $$$.

I know I shouldn't be so bummed out. I am too old to be so freaking naive or to be looking up to sports figures (Drew and I are almost exactly the same age). Seeing this stuff just makes me wonder why I bother watching sports at all?

Okay...thanks for reading...going to go pass out now...

\S/

Back up a few posts and read my response, tale another codeine and chill out. Brees has a much better agent than Ben and much more leverage (ie. he didn't rape a girl).

RaginCajun83 · 03-07-2012, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

I know I shouldn't be so bummed out. I am too old to be so freaking naive or to be looking up to sports figures (Drew and I are almost exactly the same age). Seeing this stuff just makes me wonder why I bother watching sports at all?

You're not alone in your feelings, I believed Drew was different then most athletes as well, maybe time will tell but the regular season can't get here fast enough

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2012, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

You're not alone in your feelings, I believed Drew was different then most athletes as well, maybe time will tell but the regular season can't get here fast enough

And he hasn't given any indication that he isn't who we know he is. He is a good man who is committed to New Orleans and the Saints. But, he also knows that his career could end in the first game this season and if he didn't allow his agent to do his best to insure his future he would be ignoring his responsibilty as a husband and a father. I don't know about you, but that would be atop my list as a man.

subguy · 03-07-2012, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And he hasn't given any indication that he isn't who we know he is. He is a good man who is committed to New Orleans and the Saints. But, he also knows that his career could end in the first game this season and if he didn't allow his agent to do his best to insure his future he would be ignoring his responsibilty as a husband and a father. I don't know about you, but that would be atop my list as a man.

I agree...but I think I could be as good of a father at 18-20 mil as I could with 23 mil.

alexonfyre · 03-07-2012, 08:36 PM

Brees isn't allowed to comment on this AT ALL, seriously. Educate yourselves.

03-07-2012, 09:55 PM	#1
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Originally Posted by Danno We did. He rejected an offer that would make him the highest paid player in the entire NFL, TWICE!!! SIGN THE DAMN THING DREW!!! And fire Condon!!!! saintfan, Danno, Crusader and 1 others like this.

03-08-2012, 07:53 AM	#2
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Why is everyone saying Brees is selfish/greedy? Why isn't anyBrone saying anything about Nicks demanding more money than Evans? Why isn't anyone saying anything about Colston's 'No hometown discount' quote? They all are deserve to be paid, but we all know that Brees is the engine that makes the Saints machine work. I don't care if paying Brees hair-lips the Pope, PAY THE MAN!! Probably because what Nicks wants and what Colston wants combined is still less than what the Saints offered Drew!

03-07-2012, 08:10 PM	#3
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	lb for lb, Brees is the best QB over the last 6 seasons. Anyway it's disected, he should be the highest paid QB in the NFL. On the other hand, QB is just one one position. Give him the loot and the rest of the team suffers. Defense, special teams....Saints will become a one trick poney. Great scoring ability but everything else will be sub par. Pay him what he wants and the reprocussions will be more sacks, busted defensive plays, and more weight for Brees to carry the team on his lonely. With all the endorsements, what difference does a 3-4 million honestly make. The majority of the players aren't getting cough drop and diaper paychecks. I understand the situation but the big picture is, it's a team game, not an idividual effort like baseball as Wade Boggs use to say. He may the best QB in the game but he can't do it by himself.
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126

03-07-2012, 08:16 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Originally Posted by W. Kovacs I'm sorry because I know I sound like a broken record with all of my posts lately but I'm sitting here in bed after some face surgery so I'm using my codeine-induced goofiness as an excuse to repeat myself again: I was raised a Steelers fan. I jumped ship after Roethlisberger started abusing women and the Organization did, essentially, nothing about it. I thought about bailing on pro-football altogether but I'd always liked Drew Brees; his character, what he means to the city, what he does for the troops...he was the exact opposite of Ben. I felt like he represented everything that football SHOULD be able to do for the community, its fans, etc. Then, right around the time the Ben story broke, I started traveling to New Orleans for work a lot. I got totally caught up in the Super Bowl run and have considered myself a fan since. I've thrown away all my Steelers stuff and my Drew Brees Jersey is the only athlete's jersey I own. I never really liked wearing other guys' jerseys...but it felt appropriate with Drew because he represented so much more than just a guy who could throw a football. Now, I read stories about Ben restructuring his contract to keep his team together, while Drew can't accept a deal that makes him the highest paid player in the league and will probably result in losing many of the free agents that make up the core of the team. I am not saying that Ben's willingness to restructure his contract makes everything else he's done okay, nor am I equating Drew's desire for more money with sexual abuse. I'm just saying this has really got me bummed out. I also recognize that I am not involved with the negotiations and I don't know the whole story. I really hope there is some weird stipulation that is making things unacceptable and it's not just the $$$. I know I shouldn't be so bummed out. I am too old to be so freaking naive or to be looking up to sports figures (Drew and I are almost exactly the same age). Seeing this stuff just makes me wonder why I bother watching sports at all? Okay...thanks for reading...going to go pass out now... \S/ Back up a few posts and read my response, tale another codeine and chill out. Brees has a much better agent than Ben and much more leverage (ie. he didn't rape a girl).

03-07-2012, 08:16 PM	#7
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Originally Posted by W. Kovacs I know I shouldn't be so bummed out. I am too old to be so freaking naive or to be looking up to sports figures (Drew and I are almost exactly the same age). Seeing this stuff just makes me wonder why I bother watching sports at all? You're not alone in your feelings, I believed Drew was different then most athletes as well, maybe time will tell but the regular season can't get here fast enough

03-07-2012, 08:12 PM	#4
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	More money, more problems I've tried to stay positive all offseason but Drew's contract and this "bounty" BS sure have made it hard. He's right, Drew's greed will/could cost the Saints their talented free agents this year

03-07-2012, 08:12 PM	#5
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	I'm sorry because I know I sound like a broken record with all of my posts lately but I'm sitting here in bed after some face surgery so I'm using my codeine-induced goofiness as an excuse to repeat myself again: I was raised a Steelers fan. I jumped ship after Roethlisberger started abusing women and the Organization did, essentially, nothing about it. I thought about bailing on pro-football altogether but I'd always liked Drew Brees; his character, what he means to the city, what he does for the troops...he was the exact opposite of Ben. I felt like he represented everything that football SHOULD be able to do for the community, its fans, etc. Then, right around the time the Ben story broke, I started traveling to New Orleans for work a lot. I got totally caught up in the Super Bowl run and have considered myself a fan since. I've thrown away all my Steelers stuff and my Drew Brees Jersey is the only athlete's jersey I own. I never really liked wearing other guys' jerseys...but it felt appropriate with Drew because he represented so much more than just a guy who could throw a football. Now, I read stories about Ben restructuring his contract to keep his team together, while Drew can't accept a deal that makes him the highest paid player in the league and will probably result in losing many of the free agents that make up the core of the team. I am not saying that Ben's willingness to restructure his contract makes everything else he's done okay, nor am I equating Drew's desire for more money with sexual abuse. I'm just saying this has really got me bummed out. I also recognize that I am not involved with the negotiations and I don't know the whole story. I really hope there is some weird stipulation that is making things unacceptable and it's not just the $$$. I know I shouldn't be so bummed out. I am too old to be so freaking naive or to be looking up to sports figures (Drew and I are almost exactly the same age). Seeing this stuff just makes me wonder why I bother watching sports at all? Okay...thanks for reading...going to go pass out now... \S/

03-07-2012, 08:23 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 You're not alone in your feelings, I believed Drew was different then most athletes as well, maybe time will tell but the regular season can't get here fast enough And he hasn't given any indication that he isn't who we know he is. He is a good man who is committed to New Orleans and the Saints. But, he also knows that his career could end in the first game this season and if he didn't allow his agent to do his best to insure his future he would be ignoring his responsibilty as a husband and a father. I don't know about you, but that would be atop my list as a man.

03-07-2012, 10:54 PM	#9
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,099	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And he hasn't given any indication that he isn't who we know he is. He is a good man who is committed to New Orleans and the Saints. But, he also knows that his career could end in the first game this season and if he didn't allow his agent to do his best to insure his future he would be ignoring his responsibilty as a husband and a father. I don't know about you, but that would be atop my list as a man. I agree...but I think I could be as good of a father at 18-20 mil as I could with 23 mil.

03-07-2012, 08:36 PM	#10
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Brees isn't allowed to comment on this AT ALL, seriously. Educate yourselves.

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