Drew Brees Contract Negotiations: Jason Cole Solves the Mystery

TheOak · 05-29-2012, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by xan

What about the other mystery solved:

The Saints have NO cap room to offer more than 19 million/year.

Period.

Good luck getting more when there isn't any.

Vilma frees up 4.9M

We brought in Lofton to replace Vilma...

If the deadline comes and my choice is Vilma or Brees... Sorry Vilma, you gots-to-go.

Beastmode · 05-29-2012, 07:53 AM

If they interpret the tag formula as $23.574M that is a game changer. There won't be enough cap room to even tag him.

TheOak · 05-29-2012, 08:03 AM

Then we restructure more and jet unneeded personnel.

bobdog86 · 05-29-2012, 08:35 AM

Unfortunately, we don't figure this out then we will be forever haunted and tormented as the team that refused to sign "Drew". Too bad, we don't sign him, someone else eventually will. While it may easier to live with when you live in the south where you are surrounded by other fans. Try living somewhere like the Pacific Northwest, where its "one parts per million". Not enjoyable.

saintfan · 05-29-2012, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Unfortunately, we don't figure this out then we will be forever haunted and tormented as the team that refused to sign "Drew". Too bad, we don't sign him, someone else eventually will. While it may easier to live with when you live in the south where you are surrounded by other fans. Try living somewhere like the Pacific Northwest, where its "one parts per million". Not enjoyable.

Horse hair. We aren't the 'team that refused to sign Drew'. We've done anything but refuse. We've tried to make him the highest paid player in the league at least twice - he refused.

If he wants more up front or whatever then okay, but let's not ever entertain the idea that we 'refused to sign' Drew. We've been very fair negotiating with him, and my guess is that if he had an agent who's name wasn't Tom Condon he'd be signed already.

Mardigras9 · 05-29-2012, 09:53 AM

Unbelievable. Chase is not or will be the answer. Yes the team is loaded with talent but Drew is the catalyst. Without Drew, it's a 8-8 season and a huge step backwards.
Peyton Manning got huge money, after being out for a year and unsure if he will still be able to handle a season. Drew is peaking, this is just aweful on BOTH sides.

spkb25 · 05-29-2012, 01:08 PM

Have you people lost your collective minds. I mean seriously, you don' t lose one of the top 4-5 gb's in the league. Im not saying we give in on everything, but you sugn the guy. End of story, you sign the guy. We are spoiled, spoiled by how good Drew us. Play a season without him and you'll see.

saintfan · 05-29-2012, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Have you people lost your collective minds. I mean seriously, you don' t lose one of the top 4-5 gb's in the league. Im not saying we give in on everything, but you sugn the guy. End of story, you sign the guy. We are spoiled, spoiled by how good Drew us. Play a season without him and you'll see.

I'd rather play without him than gut the team. It's no disrespect to Drew.

spkb25 · 05-29-2012, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I'd rather play without him than gut the team. It's no disrespect to Drew.

Gut the team, huh? That isn't realistic. Without DRew, we're in trouble

saintfan · 05-29-2012, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Gut the team, huh? That isn't realistic. Without DRew, we're in trouble

I'm not so sure it isn't realistic. If we give Drew what Condon appears to want, which player or players are we unable to sign going forward.

If it was cut and dry we would have caved already. We just don't have the cap room to accommodate his precise wants.

05-29-2012, 07:12 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,060	Originally Posted by xan What about the other mystery solved: The Saints have NO cap room to offer more than 19 million/year. Period. Good luck getting more when there isn't any. Vilma frees up 4.9M We brought in Lofton to replace Vilma... If the deadline comes and my choice is Vilma or Brees... Sorry Vilma, you gots-to-go.

05-29-2012, 07:53 AM	#2
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	If they interpret the tag formula as $23.574M that is a game changer. There won't be enough cap room to even tag him.
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05-29-2012, 08:50 AM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by bobdog86 Unfortunately, we don't figure this out then we will be forever haunted and tormented as the team that refused to sign "Drew". Too bad, we don't sign him, someone else eventually will. While it may easier to live with when you live in the south where you are surrounded by other fans. Try living somewhere like the Pacific Northwest, where its "one parts per million". Not enjoyable. Horse hair. We aren't the 'team that refused to sign Drew'. We've done anything but refuse. We've tried to make him the highest paid player in the league at least twice - he refused. If he wants more up front or whatever then okay, but let's not ever entertain the idea that we 'refused to sign' Drew. We've been very fair negotiating with him, and my guess is that if he had an agent who's name wasn't Tom Condon he'd be signed already. Ashley and Rugby Saint II like this.

05-29-2012, 01:09 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by spkb25 Have you people lost your collective minds. I mean seriously, you don' t lose one of the top 4-5 gb's in the league. Im not saying we give in on everything, but you sugn the guy. End of story, you sign the guy. We are spoiled, spoiled by how good Drew us. Play a season without him and you'll see. I'd rather play without him than gut the team. It's no disrespect to Drew.

05-29-2012, 01:26 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,147	Originally Posted by saintfan I'd rather play without him than gut the team. It's no disrespect to Drew. Gut the team, huh? That isn't realistic. Without DRew, we're in trouble

05-29-2012, 08:03 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,060	Then we restructure more and jet unneeded personnel.

05-29-2012, 08:35 AM	#4
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,487	Unfortunately, we don't figure this out then we will be forever haunted and tormented as the team that refused to sign "Drew". Too bad, we don't sign him, someone else eventually will. While it may easier to live with when you live in the south where you are surrounded by other fans. Try living somewhere like the Pacific Northwest, where its "one parts per million". Not enjoyable.

05-29-2012, 09:53 AM	#6
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Unbelievable. Chase is not or will be the answer. Yes the team is loaded with talent but Drew is the catalyst. Without Drew, it's a 8-8 season and a huge step backwards. Peyton Manning got huge money, after being out for a year and unsure if he will still be able to handle a season. Drew is peaking, this is just aweful on BOTH sides.

05-29-2012, 01:08 PM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,147	Have you people lost your collective minds. I mean seriously, you don' t lose one of the top 4-5 gb's in the league. Im not saying we give in on everything, but you sugn the guy. End of story, you sign the guy. We are spoiled, spoiled by how good Drew us. Play a season without him and you'll see.

05-29-2012, 01:28 PM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by spkb25 Gut the team, huh? That isn't realistic. Without DRew, we're in trouble I'm not so sure it isn't realistic. If we give Drew what Condon appears to want, which player or players are we unable to sign going forward. If it was cut and dry we would have caved already. We just don't have the cap room to accommodate his precise wants.

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