Our Defense

westbankdaze · 09-16-2012, 08:50 PM

We mainly need our secondary to make INTs

Jamessr · 09-16-2012, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

We mainly need our secondary to make INTs

That and not get burnt and blow coverage...

The Dude · 09-16-2012, 08:59 PM

Our defense looked like a clip from a Benny Hill film.

Joker · 09-16-2012, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

come on guys, with the lack of contact in practice because of the new CBA, how can you judge Spags defense after 2 weeks? It's going to take a few games and as far as always playing from behind, it's not all on the D. We were up 7-0 and the D got the ball back to us and Drew throws an ill advised pass and all of a sudden it's 7-7. Then 2 of our best receivers each drop what would have been a TD and we have to settle for 3. There's plenty of blame to go around and it's going to get better. Stop all the panic. We sound like failcons fans.

No Excuses, Spud as I will refer to him from now on has had a total of 7 games to get his so called scheme in place. What I saw today was nothing less than pathetic. I would say its a personnel problem but we would need 11 new players on defense as opposed to 1 so called D coordinator. Obviously he was fired at the Rams for a reason, could it be he sucks

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|Mitch| · 09-16-2012, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Joker

Obviously he was fired at the Rams for a reason, could it be he sucks

What are you talking about? He was the head coach of the Rams. He was a DC at the Giants and turned their defense into the 3rd ranked defense and won the Superbowl in his first year.

Also a coach at the Eagles before that and turned their defense around as well...

Need to do some reading: Steve Spagnuolo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Joker · 09-16-2012, 09:55 PM

When you're loaded with talent like the Giants then I would say almost anyone could have coached that defense as well as Phili.
So since he was the head coach he bears no responsibility on all those losing Rams teams. Gimme a break, you do some more reading and look at the players he was coaching on the teams you referred too!!!!

|Mitch| · 09-16-2012, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Joker

When you're loaded with talent like the Giants then I would say almost anyone could have coached that defense as well as Phili.
So since he was the head coach he bears no responsibility on all those losing Rams teams. Gimme a break, you do some more reading and look at the players he was coaching on the teams you referred too!!!!

The Rams had a decent defense, they held Drew to probably his worst game last year, remember that? With like 6 DBs on IR, they were literally pulling CBs off the street and beat us...

Joker · 09-16-2012, 10:08 PM

1 game in how many years, so did that game save his job (NO) why because he sucks
You say he was the head coach not the D coord at the rams so he's not responsible for the DEfense, but we often refer to Payton as head coach and off coord. Bottom line the guy sucks unless you give him all pro players to work with and the Saints definitely don't have but maybe 1

If you haven't realize this yet, it's what have you'd one for me lately not 5 years ago. That's just life

LBCutta · 09-16-2012, 10:14 PM

I don't believe it is completely coaching...it's personnel..

1) Will Smith - Why the **** is he even still on the team
2) Sedrick Ellis - never turned out to be crap
3) Scott Shanle - Why the **** is he even still on the team
4)Corey White - The new Jason David
5)Roman HArper - slow, and only good for an extra man in the box. Terrible in coverage
6) Malcolm Jenkins - garbage safety. Maybe he would have been alright if we kept him at corner
7)Vilma - a has been that is only distracting the entire team right now with his bounty bull****

Our defense sucks. That should be the focal point next year. We need headhunters out that. People that can tackle and have good football IQ. Even though this is a offensive league right now, defense still wins games. Case in point : San Fran.

Joker · 09-16-2012, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by LBCutta

I don't believe it is completely coaching...it's personnel..

1) Will Smith - Why the **** is he even still on the team
2) Sedrick Ellis - never turned out to be crap
3) Scott Shanle - Why the **** is he even still on the team
4)Corey White - The new Jason David
5)Roman HArper - slow, and only good for an extra man in the box. Terrible in coverage
6) Malcolm Jenkins - garbage safety. Maybe he would have been alright if we kept him at corner
7)Vilma - a has been that is only distracting the entire team right now with his bounty bull****

Our defense sucks. That should be the focal point next year. We need headhunters out that. People that can tackle and have good football IQ. Even though this is a offensive league right now, defense still wins games. Case in point : San Fran.

I agree with you 100 %, but at some point you have to adjust to your personnel and IMO this guy can't. We may not have given Greg Williams enough credit for what he did with the same players albeit not great but decent.

You think LSU would let us use their defense on Sundays?

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09-16-2012, 09:41 PM	#34
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by Budsdrinker come on guys, with the lack of contact in practice because of the new CBA, how can you judge Spags defense after 2 weeks? It's going to take a few games and as far as always playing from behind, it's not all on the D. We were up 7-0 and the D got the ball back to us and Drew throws an ill advised pass and all of a sudden it's 7-7. Then 2 of our best receivers each drop what would have been a TD and we have to settle for 3. There's plenty of blame to go around and it's going to get better. Stop all the panic. We sound like failcons fans. No Excuses, Spud as I will refer to him from now on has had a total of 7 games to get his so called scheme in place. What I saw today was nothing less than pathetic. I would say its a personnel problem but we would need 11 new players on defense as opposed to 1 so called D coordinator. Obviously he was fired at the Rams for a reason, could it be he sucks 💊 👴🔫

09-16-2012, 09:44 PM	#35
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by Joker Obviously he was fired at the Rams for a reason, could it be he sucks What are you talking about? He was the head coach of the Rams. He was a DC at the Giants and turned their defense into the 3rd ranked defense and won the Superbowl in his first year. Also a coach at the Eagles before that and turned their defense around as well... Need to do some reading: Steve Spagnuolo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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09-16-2012, 09:55 PM	#36
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Our Defense When you're loaded with talent like the Giants then I would say almost anyone could have coached that defense as well as Phili. So since he was the head coach he bears no responsibility on all those losing Rams teams. Gimme a break, you do some more reading and look at the players he was coaching on the teams you referred too!!!!

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by Joker When you're loaded with talent like the Giants then I would say almost anyone could have coached that defense as well as Phili. So since he was the head coach he bears no responsibility on all those losing Rams teams. Gimme a break, you do some more reading and look at the players he was coaching on the teams you referred too!!!! The Rams had a decent defense, they held Drew to probably his worst game last year, remember that? With like 6 DBs on IR, they were literally pulling CBs off the street and beat us...

09-16-2012, 10:08 PM	#38
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Our Defense 1 game in how many years, so did that game save his job (NO) why because he sucks You say he was the head coach not the D coord at the rams so he's not responsible for the DEfense, but we often refer to Payton as head coach and off coord. Bottom line the guy sucks unless you give him all pro players to work with and the Saints definitely don't have but maybe 1 If you haven't realize this yet, it's what have you'd one for me lately not 5 years ago. That's just life

09-16-2012, 10:14 PM	#39
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	Re: Our Defense I don't believe it is completely coaching...it's personnel.. 1) Will Smith - Why the ** is he even still on the team 2) Sedrick Ellis - never turned out to be crap 3) Scott Shanle - Why the is he even still on the team 4)Corey White - The new Jason David 5)Roman HArper - slow, and only good for an extra man in the box. Terrible in coverage 6) Malcolm Jenkins - garbage safety. Maybe he would have been alright if we kept him at corner 7)Vilma - a has been that is only distracting the entire team right now with his bounty bull** Our defense sucks. That should be the focal point next year. We need headhunters out that. People that can tackle and have good football IQ. Even though this is a offensive league right now, defense still wins games. Case in point : San Fran. NOS2SB likes this.

09-16-2012, 10:17 PM	#40
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by LBCutta I don't believe it is completely coaching...it's personnel.. 1) Will Smith - Why the ** is he even still on the team 2) Sedrick Ellis - never turned out to be crap 3) Scott Shanle - Why the is he even still on the team 4)Corey White - The new Jason David 5)Roman HArper - slow, and only good for an extra man in the box. Terrible in coverage 6) Malcolm Jenkins - garbage safety. Maybe he would have been alright if we kept him at corner 7)Vilma - a has been that is only distracting the entire team right now with his bounty bull** Our defense sucks. That should be the focal point next year. We need headhunters out that. People that can tackle and have good football IQ. Even though this is a offensive league right now, defense still wins games. Case in point : San Fran. I agree with you 100 %, but at some point you have to adjust to your personnel and IMO this guy can't. We may not have given Greg Williams enough credit for what he did with the same players albeit not great but decent. You think LSU would let us use their defense on Sundays? DrewDat and Rell&Gold like this.

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