Our Defense

QBREES9 · 09-16-2012, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

I read somewhere that Spags' defense always looks bad when he first takes over but that it improves as time goes on. I'm hanging hope on that. Other wise I'll just have to start drinking again.

This was the first game i didn't drink.

dizzle88 · 09-17-2012, 03:01 AM

Hard to believe that our D has actually become worse than when we has GW, even after upgrading the LB position

Couple that together, with shoddy protection, drew throwing picks like he's colourblind and there's your 0-2

I was actually very excited about our D, now I can't wait to see half of them get cut, even spags if this carries on

SaintFanQ · 09-17-2012, 03:10 AM

The only minor good thing about todays game is that we managed to put up 486 on the Panthers. The Panther defence leaked a lot of yards as well as ours! Just a thought!

lee909 · 09-17-2012, 03:31 AM

While we are getting big offensive yards I think the stat is misleading.
400+yards sounds great but when every drive needs to be 80yards + we have to rack up yards.
Just scoring on one drive per quarter gets us 300+yards.
The D needs to at worst hold teams to a couple of fields goals during the game if it can't get teams going three and out.
It's not like they need to keep teams under 17pts,anything under 27ppg and Drew will bail them out most games.

SaintsBro · 09-17-2012, 07:48 AM

plus a LOT of those yards are coming when the Saints are behind by two scores. Very misleading statistic to confuse playing desperation "catchup" ball with having a controlling dominant offense like the Saints usually have. I"d even say about a third or more of the Saints points this year have come when the game is all but over, just playing catchup at the end, with not enough time to really pull it off. Two desperation drives at the end of a game can easily rack up 120 extra yards or more of offense with no real meaning on the outcome. because the other team is only guarding the end zone and the sidelines.

st thomas · 09-17-2012, 08:40 AM

the panthers followed the same plan washington did to this de. we were suckers to them selling us handoffs and the 2 running qbs made fools of our deline and de-backs. the buck stops here hopefully. and we can show better de. with conventional qb.

NOS2SB · 09-17-2012, 08:51 AM

If we lose against KC, I'm cutting some holes in a paper bag.

Jankman8 · 09-17-2012, 09:52 AM

It all starts with rushing the passer and we simply can`t do that. I hope to see some more Wilson and Galette! Bunkley is the lone bright spot, with Cam Jordan getting better, but still not creating any pressure at all.

leilung · 09-18-2012, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by DrewDat

I Said It A Million Times.....GET RID OF HARPER....Our D Will Make A Huge Change For The Better

And replace him with who? Just curious.

He may not be the 2nd coming of Ronnie Lott, but he is absolutely serviceable as a SS.

I think all the D woes are a result of undoing the Blitz First mindset instilled by Gregg Williams. Give it until game five and I would guess we're going to see a vast improvement to what we see now.

Now excuse me while I watch replays of the last two weeks and puke...
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SaintsRule11 · 09-18-2012, 02:17 PM

It's not time to hit the panic button quite yet, although I hit it a few times during the Panthers game.

If we lose to the Chiefs though, Saints = Aints.

09-16-2012, 10:31 PM	#71
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by Boutte I read somewhere that Spags' defense always looks bad when he first takes over but that it improves as time goes on. I'm hanging hope on that. Other wise I'll just have to start drinking again. This was the first game i didn't drink.

09-17-2012, 03:01 AM	#72
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Our Defense Hard to believe that our D has actually become worse than when we has GW, even after upgrading the LB position Couple that together, with shoddy protection, drew throwing picks like he's colourblind and there's your 0-2 I was actually very excited about our D, now I can't wait to see half of them get cut, even spags if this carries on

09-17-2012, 03:10 AM	#73
SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 792	Re: Our Defense The only minor good thing about todays game is that we managed to put up 486 on the Panthers. The Panther defence leaked a lot of yards as well as ours! Just a thought!

09-17-2012, 07:48 AM	#75
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our Defense plus a LOT of those yards are coming when the Saints are behind by two scores. Very misleading statistic to confuse playing desperation "catchup" ball with having a controlling dominant offense like the Saints usually have. I"d even say about a third or more of the Saints points this year have come when the game is all but over, just playing catchup at the end, with not enough time to really pull it off. Two desperation drives at the end of a game can easily rack up 120 extra yards or more of offense with no real meaning on the outcome. because the other team is only guarding the end zone and the sidelines. Danno and Mikemike like this.

09-17-2012, 08:40 AM	#76
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Our Defense the panthers followed the same plan washington did to this de. we were suckers to them selling us handoffs and the 2 running qbs made fools of our deline and de-backs. the buck stops here hopefully. and we can show better de. with conventional qb.

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09-17-2012, 03:31 AM	#74
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,793 Blog Entries: 1	While we are getting big offensive yards I think the stat is misleading. 400+yards sounds great but when every drive needs to be 80yards + we have to rack up yards. Just scoring on one drive per quarter gets us 300+yards. The D needs to at worst hold teams to a couple of fields goals during the game if it can't get teams going three and out. It's not like they need to keep teams under 17pts,anything under 27ppg and Drew will bail them out most games.

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NOS2SB Shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 454	Re: Our Defense If we lose against KC, I'm cutting some holes in a paper bag.

09-17-2012, 09:52 AM	#78
Jankman8 Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Austria, Europe Posts: 374	Re: Our Defense It all starts with rushing the passer and we simply can`t do that. I hope to see some more Wilson and Galette! Bunkley is the lone bright spot, with Cam Jordan getting better, but still not creating any pressure at all.

09-18-2012, 02:13 PM	#79
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,351	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by DrewDat I Said It A Million Times.....GET RID OF HARPER....Our D Will Make A Huge Change For The Better And replace him with who? Just curious. He may not be the 2nd coming of Ronnie Lott, but he is absolutely serviceable as a SS. I think all the D woes are a result of undoing the Blitz First mindset instilled by Gregg Williams. Give it until game five and I would guess we're going to see a vast improvement to what we see now. Now excuse me while I watch replays of the last two weeks and puke... :: \|Mitch\| likes this.

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SaintsRule11 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 277	Re: Our Defense It's not time to hit the panic button quite yet, although I hit it a few times during the Panthers game. If we lose to the Chiefs though, Saints = Aints.
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