Our Defense

|Mitch| · 09-16-2012, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Joker

When you're loaded with talent like the Giants then I would say almost anyone could have coached that defense as well as Phili.
So since he was the head coach he bears no responsibility on all those losing Rams teams. Gimme a break, you do some more reading and look at the players he was coaching on the teams you referred too!!!!

The Rams had a decent defense, they held Drew to probably his worst game last year, remember that? With like 6 DBs on IR, they were literally pulling CBs off the street and beat us...

Joker · 09-16-2012, 09:08 PM

1 game in how many years, so did that game save his job (NO) why because he sucks
You say he was the head coach not the D coord at the rams so he's not responsible for the DEfense, but we often refer to Payton as head coach and off coord. Bottom line the guy sucks unless you give him all pro players to work with and the Saints definitely don't have but maybe 1

If you haven't realize this yet, it's what have you'd one for me lately not 5 years ago. That's just life

LBCutta · 09-16-2012, 09:14 PM

I don't believe it is completely coaching...it's personnel..

1) Will Smith - Why the **** is he even still on the team
2) Sedrick Ellis - never turned out to be crap
3) Scott Shanle - Why the **** is he even still on the team
4)Corey White - The new Jason David
5)Roman HArper - slow, and only good for an extra man in the box. Terrible in coverage
6) Malcolm Jenkins - garbage safety. Maybe he would have been alright if we kept him at corner
7)Vilma - a has been that is only distracting the entire team right now with his bounty bull****

Our defense sucks. That should be the focal point next year. We need headhunters out that. People that can tackle and have good football IQ. Even though this is a offensive league right now, defense still wins games. Case in point : San Fran.

Joker · 09-16-2012, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by LBCutta

I don't believe it is completely coaching...it's personnel..

1) Will Smith - Why the **** is he even still on the team
2) Sedrick Ellis - never turned out to be crap
3) Scott Shanle - Why the **** is he even still on the team
4)Corey White - The new Jason David
5)Roman HArper - slow, and only good for an extra man in the box. Terrible in coverage
6) Malcolm Jenkins - garbage safety. Maybe he would have been alright if we kept him at corner
7)Vilma - a has been that is only distracting the entire team right now with his bounty bull****

Our defense sucks. That should be the focal point next year. We need headhunters out that. People that can tackle and have good football IQ. Even though this is a offensive league right now, defense still wins games. Case in point : San Fran.

I agree with you 100 %, but at some point you have to adjust to your personnel and IMO this guy can't. We may not have given Greg Williams enough credit for what he did with the same players albeit not great but decent.

You think LSU would let us use their defense on Sundays?

|Mitch| · 09-16-2012, 09:20 PM

So I ask you Joker, Could you do better as DC?!

DrewDat · 09-16-2012, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Joker

I agree with you 100 %, but at some point you have to adjust to your personnel and IMO this guy can't. We may not have given Greg Williams enough credit for what he did with the same players albeit not great but decent.

You think LSU would let us use their defense on Sundays?

LOL!!!!! Corey White Is Very Comparable To Jason David!!!

|Mitch| · 09-16-2012, 09:30 PM

Like I said 2 games is not enough time to say the defense will not improve...

And with that said I'm done with this thread

DrewDat · 09-16-2012, 09:21 PM

I Would Agree If Ed Reed Lost A Lot Of One On One Battles With Receivers....Whenever A Pass Is Thrown And Ed Reed Is There I Think "Thats Picked Off"....Whenever Its Between Harper And A Receiver I Yell Out Loud "Please No Pass Interference!!!"....

Joker · 09-16-2012, 09:23 PM

Probably not but I never claimed to be a defensive coordinator, Spud applied and got the job so who do you think is to be held accountable to what we saw today and last week.

Oh I know let's blame Mr. Goodhell, it's easy

|Mitch| · 09-16-2012, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Joker

Probably not but I never claimed to be a defensive coordinator, Spud applied and got the job so who do you think is to be held accountable to what we saw today and last week

geez; It's been two games! Let them get comfortable and learn all the nuances of the defense... There's an old saying " Rome wasn't built in a day". Same with a new defense, you're not gonna make a top 10 D in a couple of games...

09-16-2012, 08:57 PM	#1
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by Joker When you're loaded with talent like the Giants then I would say almost anyone could have coached that defense as well as Phili. So since he was the head coach he bears no responsibility on all those losing Rams teams. Gimme a break, you do some more reading and look at the players he was coaching on the teams you referred too!!!! The Rams had a decent defense, they held Drew to probably his worst game last year, remember that? With like 6 DBs on IR, they were literally pulling CBs off the street and beat us...

09-16-2012, 09:08 PM	#2
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Our Defense 1 game in how many years, so did that game save his job (NO) why because he sucks You say he was the head coach not the D coord at the rams so he's not responsible for the DEfense, but we often refer to Payton as head coach and off coord. Bottom line the guy sucks unless you give him all pro players to work with and the Saints definitely don't have but maybe 1 If you haven't realize this yet, it's what have you'd one for me lately not 5 years ago. That's just life

09-16-2012, 09:14 PM	#3
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	Re: Our Defense I don't believe it is completely coaching...it's personnel.. 1) Will Smith - Why the ** is he even still on the team 2) Sedrick Ellis - never turned out to be crap 3) Scott Shanle - Why the is he even still on the team 4)Corey White - The new Jason David 5)Roman HArper - slow, and only good for an extra man in the box. Terrible in coverage 6) Malcolm Jenkins - garbage safety. Maybe he would have been alright if we kept him at corner 7)Vilma - a has been that is only distracting the entire team right now with his bounty bull** Our defense sucks. That should be the focal point next year. We need headhunters out that. People that can tackle and have good football IQ. Even though this is a offensive league right now, defense still wins games. Case in point : San Fran. NOS2SB likes this.

09-16-2012, 09:17 PM	#4
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by LBCutta I don't believe it is completely coaching...it's personnel.. 1) Will Smith - Why the ** is he even still on the team 2) Sedrick Ellis - never turned out to be crap 3) Scott Shanle - Why the is he even still on the team 4)Corey White - The new Jason David 5)Roman HArper - slow, and only good for an extra man in the box. Terrible in coverage 6) Malcolm Jenkins - garbage safety. Maybe he would have been alright if we kept him at corner 7)Vilma - a has been that is only distracting the entire team right now with his bounty bull** Our defense sucks. That should be the focal point next year. We need headhunters out that. People that can tackle and have good football IQ. Even though this is a offensive league right now, defense still wins games. Case in point : San Fran. I agree with you 100 %, but at some point you have to adjust to your personnel and IMO this guy can't. We may not have given Greg Williams enough credit for what he did with the same players albeit not great but decent. You think LSU would let us use their defense on Sundays? DrewDat and Rell&Gold like this.

09-16-2012, 09:20 PM	#5
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Our Defense So I ask you Joker, Could you do better as DC?!

09-16-2012, 09:29 PM	#6
DrewDat DOMEPATROL Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Jacksonville,Florida Due To Military Obligation Posts: 479	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by Joker I agree with you 100 %, but at some point you have to adjust to your personnel and IMO this guy can't. We may not have given Greg Williams enough credit for what he did with the same players albeit not great but decent. You think LSU would let us use their defense on Sundays? LOL!!!!! Corey White Is Very Comparable To Jason David!!!

09-16-2012, 09:30 PM	#7
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Our Defense Like I said 2 games is not enough time to say the defense will not improve... And with that said I'm done with this thread

09-16-2012, 09:21 PM	#8
DrewDat DOMEPATROL Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Jacksonville,Florida Due To Military Obligation Posts: 479	Re: Our Defense I Would Agree If Ed Reed Lost A Lot Of One On One Battles With Receivers....Whenever A Pass Is Thrown And Ed Reed Is There I Think "Thats Picked Off"....Whenever Its Between Harper And A Receiver I Yell Out Loud "Please No Pass Interference!!!".... Jamessr likes this.

09-16-2012, 09:23 PM	#9
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Our Defense Probably not but I never claimed to be a defensive coordinator, Spud applied and got the job so who do you think is to be held accountable to what we saw today and last week. Oh I know let's blame Mr. Goodhell, it's easy DrewDat likes this.

09-16-2012, 09:25 PM	#10
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by Joker Probably not but I never claimed to be a defensive coordinator, Spud applied and got the job so who do you think is to be held accountable to what we saw today and last week geez; It's been two games! Let them get comfortable and learn all the nuances of the defense... There's an old saying " Rome wasn't built in a day". Same with a new defense, you're not gonna make a top 10 D in a couple of games...

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