Draft or Free Agency

TheOak · 11-02-2012, 01:19 PM

Hopefully we take into account how well the draftee played defense in college in a ZONE!

Danno · 11-03-2012, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Hopefully we take into account how well the draftee played defense in college in a ZONE!

Good point, although I have mixed feelings about that. On one hand, you take the best player on the board over and over and eventually you end up with superior talent.

But teams like Pittsburgh and Baltimore draft players that fit their style (scheme, system, personality or whatever) and they stay competitive year in and year out.

One thing I noticed is we don't really draft for system. Martez Wilson was a MLB that some said could be a stand up DE/OLB in a 3-4. He wasn't really a great fit for our system.

Cam Jordan makes a fine LDE, but many have suggested he's probably better suited for a 3-4 DE.

We brought in Franklin last year who did well as a 3-4 NT, and tried to make him a 4-3 DT.

David Hawthorne was a MLB, we sign him to play outside.

I'll be disappointed if we decide to stick to a 4-3 yet sign/draft a tweener best suited for DE/OLB in a 3-4.

It may be time to narrow the focus a bit and identify some players that fit our scheme and our needs. We just need to be careful and not reach for a need.

TheOak · 11-05-2012, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Good point, although I have mixed feelings about that. On one hand, you take the best player on the board over and over and eventually you end up with superior talent.

But teams like Pittsburgh and Baltimore draft players that fit their style (scheme, system, personality or whatever) and they stay competitive year in and year out.

One thing I noticed is we don't really draft for system. Martez Wilson was a MLB that some said could be a stand up DE/OLB in a 3-4. He wasn't really a great fit for our system.

Cam Jordan makes a fine LDE, but many have suggested he's probably better suited for a 3-4 DE.

We brought in Franklin last year who did well as a 3-4 NT, and tried to make him a 4-3 DT.

David Hawthorne was a MLB, we sign him to play outside.

I'll be disappointed if we decide to stick to a 4-3 yet sign/draft a tweener best suited for DE/OLB in a 3-4.

It may be time to narrow the focus a bit and identify some players that fit our scheme and our needs. We just need to be careful and not reach for a need.

I think we have failed epically to fully account for the change in the game. There used to be a time when a mediocre Safety was all you needed, and damned good LBs were the strong suit of the defense.. This has become a passing league... We don't need epic LBs anymore, we need an epic (big play maker) safety... Our success in 2009 was a testament to how valuable a big play maker safety who can produce is to a defense.

Safety's are not just defensive play callers anymore.

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11-02-2012, 01:19 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Draft or Free Agency Hopefully we take into account how well the draftee played defense in college in a ZONE!

11-03-2012, 08:21 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Draft or Free Agency Originally Posted by x626xBlack Hopefully we take into account how well the draftee played defense in college in a ZONE! Good point, although I have mixed feelings about that. On one hand, you take the best player on the board over and over and eventually you end up with superior talent. But teams like Pittsburgh and Baltimore draft players that fit their style (scheme, system, personality or whatever) and they stay competitive year in and year out. One thing I noticed is we don't really draft for system. Martez Wilson was a MLB that some said could be a stand up DE/OLB in a 3-4. He wasn't really a great fit for our system. Cam Jordan makes a fine LDE, but many have suggested he's probably better suited for a 3-4 DE. We brought in Franklin last year who did well as a 3-4 NT, and tried to make him a 4-3 DT. David Hawthorne was a MLB, we sign him to play outside. I'll be disappointed if we decide to stick to a 4-3 yet sign/draft a tweener best suited for DE/OLB in a 3-4. It may be time to narrow the focus a bit and identify some players that fit our scheme and our needs. We just need to be careful and not reach for a need. jcp026 likes this.

11-05-2012, 07:18 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Draft or Free Agency Originally Posted by Danno Good point, although I have mixed feelings about that. On one hand, you take the best player on the board over and over and eventually you end up with superior talent. But teams like Pittsburgh and Baltimore draft players that fit their style (scheme, system, personality or whatever) and they stay competitive year in and year out. One thing I noticed is we don't really draft for system. Martez Wilson was a MLB that some said could be a stand up DE/OLB in a 3-4. He wasn't really a great fit for our system. Cam Jordan makes a fine LDE, but many have suggested he's probably better suited for a 3-4 DE. We brought in Franklin last year who did well as a 3-4 NT, and tried to make him a 4-3 DT. David Hawthorne was a MLB, we sign him to play outside. I'll be disappointed if we decide to stick to a 4-3 yet sign/draft a tweener best suited for DE/OLB in a 3-4. It may be time to narrow the focus a bit and identify some players that fit our scheme and our needs. We just need to be careful and not reach for a need. I think we have failed epically to fully account for the change in the game. There used to be a time when a mediocre Safety was all you needed, and damned good LBs were the strong suit of the defense.. This has become a passing league... We don't need epic LBs anymore, we need an epic (big play maker) safety... Our success in 2009 was a testament to how valuable a big play maker safety who can produce is to a defense. Safety's are not just defensive play callers anymore.

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