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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I've noticed over the past couple years that his deep passes have deteriorated His deep passes used to be right on the money and now they seem to fall short What I base this on is; can anyone remember 2009 ...

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Old 12-03-2012, 08:43 AM   #1
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I've noticed over the past couple years that his deep passes have deteriorated

His deep passes used to be right on the money and now they seem to fall short

What I base this on is; can anyone remember 2009 vs the patriots, brees threw what I thought what the best pass I have ever seen in my life, play action 49 yard pass that literally hit meachems hands without him extending

Now a days I see drew over throw lance Moore when he's wide open, happened a couple times this season, half of drews pick are ones he throws behind receivers
I'm in no way saying his arm is done, but the deep pass he threw to joe Morgan vs ATL that was picked, seemed to lack zip and drew would normally know not to throw that ball when the safeties are playing deep

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I've noticed over the past couple years that his deep passes have deteriorated

His deep passes used to be right on the money and now they seem to fall short

What I base this on is; can anyone remember 2009 vs the patriots, brees threw what I thought what the best pass I have ever seen in my life, play action 49 yard pass that literally hit meachems hands without him extending

Now a days I see drew over throw lance Moore when he's wide open, happened a couple times this season, half of drews pick are ones he throws behind receivers
I'm in no way saying his arm is done, but the deep pass he threw to joe Morgan vs ATL that was picked, seemed to lack zip and drew would normally know not to throw that ball when the safeties are playing deep
The lightbulb moment for me was Drews long pass to Moore against SF where it became a jump ball.

Watch lance start to slow down at the end... He knows..
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The lightbulb moment for me was Drews long pass to Moore against SF where it became a jump ball.

Watch lance start to slow down at the end... He knows..
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I disagree on this one. Defense was over the top. If Drew goes any deeper it's (another) pick at worst, Lance getting smashed and dropping the pass at best.

I think a lot of his troubles stem from really one issue: the O-Line. His lack of protection leads to two things:
- his not being able to step through his throws either because he has defenders in his face or because he's rushing the throw because he's ABOUT to have defenders in his face.
- he's getting abused in the pocket. It's got to start messing with your head when you get hit that often.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make excuses for Drew. I think he should be audibling (is that a word?) into runs more often since Carmichael is obviously oblivious. And he has to see the field better (this is the one that scares me. How does a QB stop being able to read defenses? Worse, how does he get back to being able to do it again?)

Finally, he has to stop trying to carry the whole load himself. I think it's admirable that he wants to be that kind of leader but he's making us predictable.

I really just want the season to end at this point. All I could think during the Falcons came was "Everyone seems to need to take a step back and clear their head." How often does Sproles drop that pass down the sideline that would have gone for, what, 45 yards? Or Moore drop a sure, easy TD? Or Graham get called for PI? Then Drew loses his s**t and tries to throw us back into the game by himself...5 picks.

We're just a mess psychologically and I'm worried someone's going to get hurt as a result.
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I disagree on this one. Defense was over the top. If Drew goes any deeper it's (another) pick at worst, Lance getting smashed and dropping the pass at best.

I think a lot of his troubles stem from really one issue: the O-Line. His lack of protection leads to two things:
- his not being able to step through his throws either because he has defenders in his face or because he's rushing the throw because he's ABOUT to have defenders in his face.
- he's getting abused in the pocket. It's got to start messing with your head when you get hit that often.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make excuses for Drew. I think he should be audibling (is that a word?) into runs more often since Carmichael is obviously oblivious. And he has to see the field better (this is the one that scares me. How does a QB stop being able to read defenses? Worse, how does he get back to being able to do it again?)

Finally, he has to stop trying to carry the whole load himself. I think it's admirable that he wants to be that kind of leader but he's making us predictable.

I really just want the season to end at this point. All I could think during the Falcons came was "Everyone seems to need to take a step back and clear their head." How often does Sproles drop that pass down the sideline that would have gone for, what, 45 yards? Or Moore drop a sure, easy TD? Or Graham get called for PI? Then Drew loses his s**t and tries to throw us back into the game by himself...5 picks.

We're just a mess psychologically and I'm worried someone's going to get hurt as a result.
This is what I have been trying to tell folks! Drew trying to be Superman with an O-Line that needs to do its main job and protect the QB, all of the dropped passes and Graham needing the ball to fall right into his hands instead of being the aggressive player he was last year. Maybe Graham is still hurt, but it is frustrating watching the D finally start coming around only to watch the Offense unravel.
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