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alleycat_126 01-23-2013 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 468594)
oh, and I would not take Tyrann Mathieu if the paid the Saints to play. He had chance after chance with LSU and failed. Screw him

Before you vote Mathieu off the island..... remember we have a veteran team who can fix his off the field stupidity..... and putting him on the field das a sixth or seventh round selection doesn't hurt you if he doesn't pan out, and as the Wes Welker of the defense I think he would be very beneficial he reminds me of Cortland Finnegan..... BTW special teams return man who can change the game not named Sproles or Moore......

saintsfan1976 01-24-2013 07:19 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
With the announcement of a 3-4 defense i say we go after CJ Mosely from Alabama.

Tough, fast, great in coverage.

lsutigerfan 01-24-2013 08:05 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
CJ announced he is staying in school.

lsutigerfan 01-24-2013 08:06 PM

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I like Alec Ogeltree and Arthur Brown.

Danno 01-24-2013 08:51 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 474820)
CJ announced he is staying in school.

And he should. He's still a bit raw and a little light against the run. Bama used him more in pass coverage than on 1st down. He frequently came out on run downs.

hagan714 01-24-2013 10:09 PM

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34 effect is simple

we need a NT or they will run on us all day and all night.

lee909 01-24-2013 10:40 PM

Will Bunkley be the NT or do we draft one?.
Looking at the draft rankings Star Lotulelei will be gone and after him

Is it worth trading up for him?


Johnathan Hankins*, DT, Ohio State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 325.
Projected 40 Time: 5.18.
Projected Round (2013): Top-20.
12/22/12: Hankins started out the year extremely strongly for Ohio State. He was a monster in the middle of the line as a run-stuffer and a disruptive pass-rusher.

Hankins was a dominant force against California, among others. He totaled 10 tackles and a sack while making plays all over the field. Hankins made tackles outside of his gap. One was on a wide receiver screen on the perimeter. He was beating double-team blocks from a guard and center to stuff runs at the line of scrimmage.

Hankins' play cooled off some after a dominant September, but he still caused problems at the line of scrimmage and finished his collegiate career strong with a good performance against Michigan. Hankins totaled 55 tackles, four tackles for a loss and a sack.

8/25/12: Hankins is a massive tackle who takes up a lot of space and blockers at the point of attack. The sophomore had a strong 2011 season. He was a fabulous run-defender at that point of attack and totaled 67 tackles. Hankins also had 11 tackles for a loss and three sacks. He notched 16 tackles and a sack as a freshman.

Even though Hankins only had three sacks last year, he was a better pass-rusher than the numbers indicate. Hankins got good penetration into the pocket to hurry quarterbacks and take away space for them to step up in the pocket. He has serious quickness that he uses to fire into his gap and disrupt plays.

NFL coaches are going to love Hankins' versatility. He has played all over the defensive line. Hankins has lined up as a three-technique, on the outside shoulder of the guard; a two-gap defensive tackle technique; a defensive end; and the zero-technique - as a nose tackle above the center. Thus, he could fit as in a 4-3 as a defensive tackle, or in a 3-4 defense as a nose tackle or defensive end.

If Hankins becomes a more consistent pass-rusher and is able to produce a quality sack total, he could contend to be the top tackle selected. With Ohio State's new attacking defense, it wouldn't be surprising if the junior increases his sack production in 2012.





Jonathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia
Height: 6-3. Weight: 351.
Projected 40 Time: 5.55.
Projected Round (2013): 1.
12/22/12: Jenkins has 50 tackles with two tackles for a loss and a sack in 2012. He stood out with good games against Missouri, South Carolina, Florida and Auburn. Jenkins played well in the SEC Championship and beat Alabama guard Chance Warmack for a sack.

Jenkins is a load at the line of scrimmage who can collapse the pocket while stuffing runs. He's helped his stock this season.

8/25/12: The junior college product Jenkins showed off massive size with some surprising athleticism in his debut last year for the Bulldogs. The junior had 28 with six tackles for a loss and three sacks.

Jenkins is a massive load at the line of scrimmage. He is a natural fit as a zero-technique nose tackle in a 3-4 defense. It helps that Jenkins already plays that position for Georgia.


Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
Height: 6-4. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.35.
Projected Round (2013): 2-3.
12/22/12: Williams had a rough start to the season. He was limited against Michigan and sat out against Western Kentucky with a concussion. Williams has played better later with good performances versus Texas A&M, LSU and Georgia. He had 36 tackles, 2.5 tackles for a loss and one sack. Williams is a good run-stuffer, but doesn't offer much of anything as a pass-rusher.

8/25/12: The "tattooed monster from down under" has some shear power and quickness. The Australian didn't start playing football until he was 15 years old. He played a couple seasons of community college before breaking into the lineup as a junior for Alabama.

Williams had 24 tackles with four tackles for a loss and half a sack in 2011. He was a starting five-technique defensive end but moved inside to tackle as part of a four-man front in pass-rushing situations. Williams should take on a prominent role in the Alabama defense since the Crimson Tide lost a number of players to the 2012 NFL Draft.





Kwame Geathers*, DT, Georgia
Height: 6-6. Weight: 350.
Projected 40 Time: 5.55.
Projected Round (2013): 3-5.
12/22/12: Geathers has played well as part of a rotation on Georgia's defensive line. He has 37 tackles, five tackles for a loss, a sack and a blocked kick this season. Geathers would be an every-down player on the majority of teams. He struggled in the second half of the SEC Championship Game against Alabama. Geathers can take over as the starting nose tackle next season if he decides to return to Georgia.

8/25/12: Geathers is a mountain of man who is difficult to move at the line of scrimmage. He looks like a good fit for a 3-4 defense, especially at nose tackle.

Geathers should receive more playing time as a junior as he was team's defensive MVP for spring practice in 2012. He was mostly a backup in 2011 with 14 tackles. The sophomore also missed a few games. Nose tackles with Geathers' size are hard to find.

hagan714 01-24-2013 10:51 PM

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Johnathan Hankins*, DT, Ohio State - i watch a lot of big ten football and i really do not see the heart in the kid. talent is there the drive and hustle seems to be lacking. So ceiling is the selling point. buyer be ware over hyped and is going higher than he should in the draft.

Jonathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia is interesting but can he be a 3 down guy?

Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama - always looked soft to me. more bulk than muscle, not sure just yet

Kwame Geathers*, DT, Georgia is a mountain. rotation would be needed but he is a big freaking guy

lee909 01-24-2013 11:22 PM

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I read that about Hankins when we were mocked to take him or Richardson.
A lack of heart/drive in college players always worries me.If they are not willing to work hard then,what hope for them when they are paid millions.

Crusader 01-25-2013 01:09 AM

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Lets get a tub of lard!


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