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FinSaint 01-27-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 475700)
Mingo also played some safety his senior year in high school, so he adds an extra dimension with his ability to drop back on certain plays.


Dion Jordan also has that ability to drop back, which is why I thought that he could probably start as an OLB, and then as he bulks up and learns the game, he could move to DE.

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In 2012, Jordan showcased his versatility to the nation against Arizona State, lining up on the line of scrimmage as a stand-up defensive end, in the box as a linebacker or in the slot, covering inside receivers. Yes - in the slot on receivers, a spot usually reserved for defensive backs.
Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

jeanpierre 01-28-2013 05:12 AM

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I haven't seen a mock draft yet where Mingo actually fell to us...

lsutigerfan 01-28-2013 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 475815)
I haven't seen a mock draft yet where Mingo actually fell to us...

DRAFTTEK 2013 NFL Mock Draft | 2013 NFL Draft Player Rankings

lee909 01-28-2013 05:57 AM

Bucky Brooks new mock has Star Lotulelli going to the Panthers.If that was happening would you try and deal with the Buccs to move up and snatch him?

dizzle88 01-28-2013 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 475826)
Bucky Brooks new mock has Star Lotulelli going to the Panthers.If that was happening would you try and deal with the Buccs to move up and snatch him?

Me personally, no

Only because he's a 4-3 DT, remember all we've done the past few years is draft players and move them to different positions, hasn't worked out well at all

Or like danno says so often, Square peg needs a Square Hole

I'd only draft players that we know can come into our system and make an impact straight away, not have to learn a whole different type of D

lee909 01-28-2013 06:10 AM

Star Lotulelei

Position:DTSchool:Utah
Height:6' 4"Weight:320 lbs
Class:Senior40 time:unk
All-Star Game:NoneTeam Captain:No
Overall Rank:5Position Rank:1
Draft Projection:



Initial Thoughts

Jimmy O’Brien: Lotulelei could have declared for the 2012 draft, and would likely have battled Dontari Poe to be the first nose tackle selected. Unlike Poe, who possesses rare movement skills for a player of his size, with the flexibility to play anywhere in the defensive front, Lotulelei is more a classic 3-4 space eating nose tackle, with the strength to anchor at the point of attack, and the power to absorb doubleteams. Make no mistake, Lotulelei also displays impressive short area burst and quickness, with the capability to play on the other side of the line of scrimmage, but he’s more a true blocker-eater inside, employing sound leverage and a strong lower core to keep defenders clean behind him. Limited pass rush ability (no speed rush), and he struggles to tackle outside his frame. Versatile enough to play one technique in a 4-3 undershifted front, but most natural fit is as a two gap zero technique, or nose shade, in position where he can control the flow of traffic around the ball. Will be attractive to NFL teams running multiple or hybrid schemes, and should push to be a top 10 pick come April.

dizzle88 01-28-2013 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 475831)
Star Lotulelei

Position:DTSchool:Utah
Height:6' 4"Weight:320 lbs
Class:Senior40 time:unk
All-Star Game:NoneTeam Captain:No
Overall Rank:5Position Rank:1
Draft Projection:



Initial Thoughts

Jimmy O’Brien: Lotulelei could have declared for the 2012 draft, and would likely have battled Dontari Poe to be the first nose tackle selected. Unlike Poe, who possesses rare movement skills for a player of his size, with the flexibility to play anywhere in the defensive front, Lotulelei is more a classic 3-4 space eating nose tackle, with the strength to anchor at the point of attack, and the power to absorb doubleteams. Make no mistake, Lotulelei also displays impressive short area burst and quickness, with the capability to play on the other side of the line of scrimmage, but he’s more a true blocker-eater inside, employing sound leverage and a strong lower core to keep defenders clean behind him. Limited pass rush ability (no speed rush), and he struggles to tackle outside his frame. Versatile enough to play one technique in a 4-3 undershifted front, but most natural fit is as a two gap zero technique, or nose shade, in position where he can control the flow of traffic around the ball. Will be attractive to NFL teams running multiple or hybrid schemes, and should push to be a top 10 pick come April.

Ahh right i understand

drafttek only had him listed as a 4-3

if he can play both then why not, if they think hes worth the pick

I'd rather address OLB and DE first though

jeanpierre 01-28-2013 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 475823)

Fair enough...but, I'm not buying that he falls...

jeanpierre 01-28-2013 07:55 AM

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Justin Smith: 49ers “loaded” with “ridiculous” talent | ProFootballTalk

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 475846)
(Justin) Smith was the fourth overall pick in the 2001 NFL draft, and he’s one of 15 players on the 49ers’ roster who was a first-round draft pick.

This is why I'm in the minority and am critical of Mickey Loomis; and if he's not a personnel guy and just a salary cap man, then why doesn't he get someone who's better and who does a better job with the first round picks?!?

You've got to make those first rounders count, and the Saints haven't and that's why I am even more amazed at the job that Coach Payton has done...

lee909 01-28-2013 08:00 AM

The scouting department needs to be held accountable.Has there been many changes in personnel or are they living on the backs of the good mid round picks of a few years back?.


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