Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

RaginCajun83 · 02-20-2013, 06:56 PM

1979 has to be the worst draft ever, a P/K in the 1st round. What kind of drugs were they on back then?

Danno · 02-20-2013, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

1979 has to be the worst draft ever, a P/K in the 1st round. What kind of drugs were they on back then?

Obviously you don't know how important a punter is. /sarcasm

Seer1 · 02-20-2013, 06:59 PM

As long as we're beatin' ourselves with a stick, don't forget Ricky Williams...

RaginCajun83 · 02-20-2013, 07:00 PM

I guess not that much since there isn't one in the hall of fame /sarcasm

Danno · 02-20-2013, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

I guess not that much since there isn't one in the hall of fame /sarcasm

Combined with the fact that no team every picks one on day 1, or the fact that only 1 or 2 are drafted every year, or the fact that every team that does pick one has extra picks in the draft, or that... aww nevermind.

Seer1 · 02-20-2013, 07:05 PM

C'mon now. Morestead was one of the shining stars on our defense last year.

RaginCajun83 · 02-20-2013, 07:51 PM

"Bullshinski, take an oath to the constitution, take a weapon, and take a ride over the pond; or watch Mike Rowe - those are hard jobs! Most scouts are hired by nepotistic means and have less ability at assessing football than B&G Members!"

Pretty sure I said "behind the scene jobs in sports"

How in the world did I ever compare it to any real jobs? I said IN SPORTS

No **** it doesn't compare to serving your country and I wasn't trying to say so

jeanpierre · 02-20-2013, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

"Bullshinski, take an oath to the constitution, take a weapon, and take a ride over the pond; or watch Mike Rowe - those are hard jobs! Most scouts are hired by nepotistic means and have less ability at assessing football than B&G Members!"

Pretty sure I said "behind the scene jobs in sports"

How in the world did I ever compare it to any real jobs? I said IN SPORTS

No **** it doesn't compare to serving your country and I wasn't trying to say so

Oh if you sense any aggression it's not towards you - I've heard some Saints scouts whine and ***** at a Metairie watering hole when every regular at that sports bar had been part of conversations "pre-draft" that would have put the Saints, talent-wise, in the SuperBowl years before that magical run...

RaginCajun83 · 02-20-2013, 08:21 PM

Well look a the track record of those so called "scouts" back then, some of those drafts look like they were throwing darts to make selections

TheOak · 02-21-2013, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Are you kidding? Look at their successes...

1 6 Julio Jones WR Alabama
3 91 Akeem Dent LB Georgia
5 145 Jacquizz Rodgers RB Oregon State
6 192 Matt Bosher P Miami (Fla.)7
210 Andrew Jackson G Fresno State
7 230 Cliff Matthews DE South Carolina
2010 - Atlanta Falcons
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 19 Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri
3 83 Corey Peters DT Kentucky
3 98 Mike Johnson G Alabama
4 117 Joe Hawley C Nevada-Las Vegas
5 135 Dominique Franks DB Oklahoma
5 165 Kerry Meier WR Kansas
6 171 Shann Schillinger DB Montana
2009 - Atlanta Falcons
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 24 Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
2 55 William Moore DB Missouri
3 90 Chris Owens DB San Jose State
4 125 Lawrence Sidbury DE Richmond
5 138 William Middleton DB Furman
5 156 Garrett Reynolds T North Carolina
6 176 Spencer Adkins LB Miami (Fla.)
7 210 Vance Walker DT Georgia Tech
2008 - Atlanta Falcons
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 3 Matt Ryan QB Boston College
1 21 Sam Baker T USC
2 37 Curtis Lofton MLB Oklahoma
3 68 Chevis Jackson CB Louisiana State
3 84 Harry Douglas WR Louisville
3 98 Thomas DeCoud FS California
5 138 Robert James MLB Arizona State
5 154 Kroy Biermann DE Montana
6 172 Thomas Brown RB Georgia
7 212 Wilrey Fontenot CB Arizona
7 232 Keith Zinger TE Louisiana State
2007 - Atlanta Falcons
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 8 Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas
2 39 Justin Blalock G Texas
2 41 Chris Houston CB Arkansas
3 75 Laurent Robinson WR Illinois State
4 109 Stephen Nicholas LB South Florida
4 133 Martrez Milner TE Georgia
6 185 Trey Lewis DT Washburn
6 194 David Irons CB Auburn
6 198 Doug Datish C Ohio State
6 203 Daren Stone DB Maine
7 244 Jason Snelling RB Virginia

Our top 20 picks wouldn't come close to their top 20 picks.

How do you define success ?

I define it as Super Bowl 44

02-20-2013, 06:56 PM	#1
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation? 1979 has to be the worst draft ever, a P/K in the 1st round. What kind of drugs were they on back then?

02-20-2013, 06:59 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,759	Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 1979 has to be the worst draft ever, a P/K in the 1st round. What kind of drugs were they on back then? Obviously you don't know how important a punter is. /sarcasm

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation? As long as we're beatin' ourselves with a stick, don't forget Ricky Williams...

02-20-2013, 07:00 PM	#4
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation? I guess not that much since there isn't one in the hall of fame /sarcasm

02-20-2013, 07:02 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,759	Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 I guess not that much since there isn't one in the hall of fame /sarcasm Combined with the fact that no team every picks one on day 1, or the fact that only 1 or 2 are drafted every year, or the fact that every team that does pick one has extra picks in the draft, or that... aww nevermind.

02-20-2013, 07:05 PM	#6
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation? C'mon now. Morestead was one of the shining stars on our defense last year.

02-20-2013, 07:51 PM	#7
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation? "Bullshinski, take an oath to the constitution, take a weapon, and take a ride over the pond; or watch Mike Rowe - those are hard jobs! Most scouts are hired by nepotistic means and have less ability at assessing football than B&G Members!" Pretty sure I said "behind the scene jobs in sports" How in the world did I ever compare it to any real jobs? I said IN SPORTS No **** it doesn't compare to serving your country and I wasn't trying to say so

02-20-2013, 08:12 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 "Bullshinski, take an oath to the constitution, take a weapon, and take a ride over the pond; or watch Mike Rowe - those are hard jobs! Most scouts are hired by nepotistic means and have less ability at assessing football than B&G Members!" Pretty sure I said "behind the scene jobs in sports" How in the world did I ever compare it to any real jobs? I said IN SPORTS No ** it doesn't compare to serving your country and I wasn't trying to say so Oh if you sense any aggression it's not towards you - I've heard some Saints scouts whine and *** at a Metairie watering hole when every regular at that sports bar had been part of conversations "pre-draft" that would have put the Saints, talent-wise, in the SuperBowl years before that magical run...

02-20-2013, 08:21 PM	#9
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation? Well look a the track record of those so called "scouts" back then, some of those drafts look like they were throwing darts to make selections

02-21-2013, 05:05 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Originally Posted by Danno Are you kidding? Look at their successes... 1 6 Julio Jones WR Alabama 3 91 Akeem Dent LB Georgia 5 145 Jacquizz Rodgers RB Oregon State 6 192 Matt Bosher P Miami (Fla.)7 210 Andrew Jackson G Fresno State 7 230 Cliff Matthews DE South Carolina 2010 - Atlanta Falcons RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 1 19 Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri 3 83 Corey Peters DT Kentucky 3 98 Mike Johnson G Alabama 4 117 Joe Hawley C Nevada-Las Vegas 5 135 Dominique Franks DB Oklahoma 5 165 Kerry Meier WR Kansas 6 171 Shann Schillinger DB Montana 2009 - Atlanta Falcons RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 1 24 Peria Jerry DT Mississippi 2 55 William Moore DB Missouri 3 90 Chris Owens DB San Jose State 4 125 Lawrence Sidbury DE Richmond 5 138 William Middleton DB Furman 5 156 Garrett Reynolds T North Carolina 6 176 Spencer Adkins LB Miami (Fla.) 7 210 Vance Walker DT Georgia Tech 2008 - Atlanta Falcons RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 1 3 Matt Ryan QB Boston College 1 21 Sam Baker T USC 2 37 Curtis Lofton MLB Oklahoma 3 68 Chevis Jackson CB Louisiana State 3 84 Harry Douglas WR Louisville 3 98 Thomas DeCoud FS California 5 138 Robert James MLB Arizona State 5 154 Kroy Biermann DE Montana 6 172 Thomas Brown RB Georgia 7 212 Wilrey Fontenot CB Arizona 7 232 Keith Zinger TE Louisiana State 2007 - Atlanta Falcons RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 1 8 Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas 2 39 Justin Blalock G Texas 2 41 Chris Houston CB Arkansas 3 75 Laurent Robinson WR Illinois State 4 109 Stephen Nicholas LB South Florida 4 133 Martrez Milner TE Georgia 6 185 Trey Lewis DT Washburn 6 194 David Irons CB Auburn 6 198 Doug Datish C Ohio State 6 203 Daren Stone DB Maine 7 244 Jason Snelling RB Virginia Our top 20 picks wouldn't come close to their top 20 picks. How do you define success ? I define it as Super Bowl 44

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