Joe Morgan arrested for DUI

05-30-2013, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

I am in no way saying Joe is the most evil person ever to wear a Saints uniform. I am not saying that he should be kicked off the team. But what I am saying, is that I do not like drunk drivers.

This is not a personal attack to Joe or to any of you that have done it. It happens everyday. Somebody, somewhere, is drunk or have had one too many and is behind the wheel of a vehicle right now.

Here is the thing. Lets just say he had caused a wreck and taken someones life. Not only has he caused pain to the victims family and friends, he has to go through life knowing that he killed someone. Everytime someone looks at him, they will know he killed someone. I hear all of this "Some of you are cast the first stone, people", BS. No, I have not gotten behind the wheel after drinking. I know first hand what it can lead to.

Don't tell me that this was just a little slap on the hand situation. He, just like everyone else; with or around him, knew he was drunk and shouldn't have driven. No one had the balls to stop him, Joe included. Thats the problem.

I wonder if he had killed someone one if most of you would be saying "Give the guy a break"? Be pissed at me all you want for my stance on this. I'm just greatful that no one was hurt/injured/killed.

I like Joe Morgan, I really do; especially the fact that he worked his way to an opportunity; that said, I Have Just One Question -

Why does it take the Death of a Child, A Mother, and/or A Father for Drinking and Driving to have Consequence?

TheOak · 05-30-2013, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Oak, I respect the hell out of you brother; but where did I say punish this guy with 500 lashing with a cat of nine tails based of what "could" have happened?

All I did was give an example of what "Could" have happened. I will go a re-read what I wrote, but I don't think I said he should be punished for what "could" have happened. I just don't agree with the "This isn't a big deal and Give the guy a break".

I'll ask this for everyone who has gotten a DUI/DWI.

Did the Judge and DA give you a break? If not, how big of a deal was it to you?

My intent wasn't to paint a picture that you wanted stiffer punishment on a "could of." However a lot of people do walk that rope.

I am not trying to make a lesser deal than what it is. There are however statements about this being a possible "problem", which it isn't. A DUI is not a problem where he gets drunk and beats on women etc... If you get my meaning. Seriously we have people talking about a damaged career.

As far as punishment, Morgan will receive punishment from two entities which is twice as much as normal folk. The legal system will punish him accordingly, and then the league will hammer him also.

I received zero favor in my DUI and the DA was related to me. I didn't ask for it either, I did the crime.... I payed my price.

That being said, we all know one cat on his third DUI that not in jail and still driving.... And that is F-up.

We are cool and zero disrespect was intended.

Peace

TheOak · 05-30-2013, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I like Joe Morgan, I really do; especially the fact that he worked his way to an opportunity; that said, I Have Just One Question -

Why does it take the Death of a Child, A Mother, and/or A Father for Drinking and Driving to have Consequence?

Because laws are reactive. We are innocent until proven guilty, and we are punished for the act committed, not what could have happened.

When a death is involved in a DUI normally manslaughter charges are brought against the offender also.

SapperSaint · 05-30-2013, 01:12 PM

Joe will survive this. And I agree that he is going to get double if not triple the punishment of the normal person. He will get the Law, the NFL and the Saints. I hope he learns a lesson from this and moves on. Just a little wiser though.

Rugby Saint II · 05-30-2013, 02:07 PM

When I've seen him interviewed he seems like a pretty sharp kid. Maybe the Saints could rough him up a little and then throw him back in the mix.

st thomas · 05-31-2013, 10:41 AM

i would rather face my father than coach payton on this one. he will make an example of him and it may put this kid on the right track or send him opposite way. its going to be a long list of must dos from payton and organization. good luck joe. get-r-done

TheOak · 05-31-2013, 10:45 AM

Tough love

Seer1 · 05-31-2013, 03:36 PM

What's done is done. Thank heavens he at least pulled over and no one was hurt. The kid's already forfeiting two game checks according to NFL policy. Hopefully he learns, with a little help from Sean and he becomes the Saint he can be.

homerj07 · 06-01-2013, 08:20 AM

Damn. Stupid People Piss Me Off

TheOak · 06-01-2013, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by homerj07

Damn. Stupid People Piss Me Off

You must either live in anger or on a desert island?

05-30-2013, 11:31 AM	#81
Threaded by jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by SapperSaint I am in no way saying Joe is the most evil person ever to wear a Saints uniform. I am not saying that he should be kicked off the team. But what I am saying, is that I do not like drunk drivers. This is not a personal attack to Joe or to any of you that have done it. It happens everyday. Somebody, somewhere, is drunk or have had one too many and is behind the wheel of a vehicle right now. Here is the thing. Lets just say he had caused a wreck and taken someones life. Not only has he caused pain to the victims family and friends, he has to go through life knowing that he killed someone. Everytime someone looks at him, they will know he killed someone. I hear all of this "Some of you are cast the first stone, people", BS. No, I have not gotten behind the wheel after drinking. I know first hand what it can lead to. Don't tell me that this was just a little slap on the hand situation. He, just like everyone else; with or around him, knew he was drunk and shouldn't have driven. No one had the balls to stop him, Joe included. Thats the problem. I wonder if he had killed someone one if most of you would be saying "Give the guy a break"? Be pissed at me all you want for my stance on this. I'm just greatful that no one was hurt/injured/killed. I like Joe Morgan, I really do; especially the fact that he worked his way to an opportunity; that said, I Have Just One Question - Why does it take the Death of a Child, A Mother, and/or A Father for Drinking and Driving to have Consequence?
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05-30-2013, 11:55 AM	#82
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Originally Posted by SapperSaint Oak, I respect the hell out of you brother; but where did I say punish this guy with 500 lashing with a cat of nine tails based of what "could" have happened? All I did was give an example of what "Could" have happened. I will go a re-read what I wrote, but I don't think I said he should be punished for what "could" have happened. I just don't agree with the "This isn't a big deal and Give the guy a break". I'll ask this for everyone who has gotten a DUI/DWI. Did the Judge and DA give you a break? If not, how big of a deal was it to you? My intent wasn't to paint a picture that you wanted stiffer punishment on a "could of." However a lot of people do walk that rope. I am not trying to make a lesser deal than what it is. There are however statements about this being a possible "problem", which it isn't. A DUI is not a problem where he gets drunk and beats on women etc... If you get my meaning. Seriously we have people talking about a damaged career. As far as punishment, Morgan will receive punishment from two entities which is twice as much as normal folk. The legal system will punish him accordingly, and then the league will hammer him also. I received zero favor in my DUI and the DA was related to me. I didn't ask for it either, I did the crime.... I payed my price. That being said, we all know one cat on his third DUI that not in jail and still driving.... And that is F-up. We are cool and zero disrespect was intended. Peace
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

05-30-2013, 11:57 AM	#83
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Originally Posted by jeanpierre I like Joe Morgan, I really do; especially the fact that he worked his way to an opportunity; that said, I Have Just One Question - Why does it take the Death of a Child, A Mother, and/or A Father for Drinking and Driving to have Consequence? Because laws are reactive. We are innocent until proven guilty, and we are punished for the act committed, not what could have happened. When a death is involved in a DUI normally manslaughter charges are brought against the offender also.

05-30-2013, 01:12 PM	#84
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Joe will survive this. And I agree that he is going to get double if not triple the punishment of the normal person. He will get the Law, the NFL and the Saints. I hope he learns a lesson from this and moves on. Just a little wiser though. TheOak likes this.

05-30-2013, 02:07 PM	#85
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI When I've seen him interviewed he seems like a pretty sharp kid. Maybe the Saints could rough him up a little and then throw him back in the mix.

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05-31-2013, 10:41 AM	#86
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI i would rather face my father than coach payton on this one. he will make an example of him and it may put this kid on the right track or send him opposite way. its going to be a long list of must dos from payton and organization. good luck joe. get-r-done

05-31-2013, 10:45 AM	#87
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Tough love

05-31-2013, 03:36 PM	#88
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI What's done is done. Thank heavens he at least pulled over and no one was hurt. The kid's already forfeiting two game checks according to NFL policy. Hopefully he learns, with a little help from Sean and he becomes the Saint he can be.

06-01-2013, 08:20 AM	#89
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Damn. Stupid People Piss Me Off

06-01-2013, 09:41 AM	#90
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Joe Morgan arrested for DUI Originally Posted by homerj07 Damn. Stupid People Piss Me Off You must either live in anger or on a desert island?

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