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TheOak 08-30-2013 04:20 PM

Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Winer winer chicken dinner!


BTW Papz, if you don't use that I might. Lol

papz 08-30-2013 04:20 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
LOL

It's pretty fitting don't you think?

SaintFanQ 08-30-2013 04:25 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
I would like to see Ingram with us for at least one more season, he looked very good in the Miami game.

Maybe he will prove us all wrong and have a great season for the Saints this year!

GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!

NuNu318 08-30-2013 04:26 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Makes no sense to trade him a week before the Regular season if its not for a starting caliber OLB IMO. If you wanted a pick you could have done that months ago. Regardless of how desperate the Giants may seem they aren't going to give up a high, and middle pick for a guy that is going to be a backup to David Wilson.

If anything I would think Cadet would be the one on the move whether its by beig cut or put on the 53 then traded. I mean dude didn't even take the trip to Miami when everyone else did outside of the obvious guys that are on the injury report.

TheOak 08-30-2013 04:34 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
@DConnollyNFL: Hearing that #Steelers are now in bidding war with #NYGiants for #Saints RB Mark Ingram #NFL

|Mitch| 08-30-2013 04:53 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
I put no faith in this rumor; no one else seems to be reporting it...

dueceloose 08-30-2013 04:55 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Ingram for Jarvis Jones? hmm

TheOak 08-30-2013 04:56 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 521470)
I put no faith in this rumor; no one else seems to be reporting it...

The guy that is calling it is also (as it seems) releasing accurate info on certain players around the league making the cut.

SloMotion 08-30-2013 04:58 PM

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True or not, it's certainly taking off ... 5 pages & 48 posts in 3 hours ... it's gotta' be some kind of record, :lol:.

TheOak 08-30-2013 05:00 PM

Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Why I think something happens is the anger of Sean Payton over last season...

We may just "witness the power of a fully operational Fluer de lis" ~ Darth Payton


Last tweet from Holder tells me we are dealing.

@LarryHolder: The #Saints have no transactions on the league's transaction list. So the pile of cuts will be turned in tomorrow.

m.twitter.com/LarryHolder

dizzle88 08-30-2013 05:02 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Only thing i have a slight issue with if it is true is our RB depth

If ingram goes, PT has only just got healthy, if he gets injured again we have sproles and maybe khiry robinson who (so far) has looked good against a 3rd team defense, not first stringers

|Mitch| 08-30-2013 05:02 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 521472)
The guy that is calling it is also (as it seems) releasing accurate info on certain players around the league making the cut.

Funny; no one else is reporting it... I would think that Mike Triplett or the likes would have said something. I don't believe it...

Rugby Saint II 08-30-2013 05:12 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Two young promising players with Cadet and Robinson.....Only one needs to really get in the rotation. The powers that be could run PT, Sproles and rotate in either Robinson or Cadet as needed.
What do we get in return though? We need something now. Although, I would take a second round offer for him in next years draft. It's been so long since we chose in the second round.........I'm not sure we would remember how to do it. :wink:

Saintaintso 08-30-2013 05:13 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Ingram for Troy Polamalu ?

Saintaintso 08-30-2013 05:14 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Would help Keenan Lewis's argument lol

Saintaintso 08-30-2013 05:16 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
That I wouldn't have a problem with

thebdj 08-30-2013 05:16 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Wow, you sit down and watch just ONE film with the wife and you come back here and BOOM, the trade block has gone mental :)

As I have been defending Ingram at length, I feel it worth mentioning that I personally would be delighted to trade him for the right package. A perfect package would include a warm body but if we could genuinely get multiple draft picks, whether conditional or not, especially if one of them was a 2nd (!!!!!) then I will drive him to New York myself!

Oddly I don't think NYG puts him in a considerably better scheme than he is already in and he would be up against another projected stud RB.

Do we have enough depth to cope with losing Ingram? At the end of the day I trust in Mickey and Sean. If they think Robinson and Cadet are ample replacements for Ingram and Ivory for this season and, perhaps, moving forward, then bag the picks and keep on building!

PS - I would also love to see papz change his handle to c0ckmonger. Some outlandish statements sometimes backfire. May this be one of them for all the right reasons :)

TheOak 08-30-2013 05:21 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 521476)
Only thing i have a slight issue with if it is true is our RB depth

If ingram goes, PT has only just got healthy, if he gets injured again we have sproles and maybe khiry robinson who (so far) has looked good against a 3rd team defense, not first stringers

Depends on how you look at it. In my fuzzy logic way of looking at things the starting defensive front 7 are playing our starting o-line.... It's all about finding and reading holes for a RB... Not Robinson vs Peters/Babineaux/Umenyiora when we play Atlanta, so what string doesn't matter as long as there are holes to run through....

Correct?

It's the Falcons o-line vs our d-front 7 to see if there is a hole and not Steven Jackson vs our front 7.

thebdj 08-30-2013 05:23 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
@TheOak - In fact you may argue it is more difficult as there may be more mistakes being made so you need to think more on your feet. Maybe he made a more difficult situation look even easier.

That is MY fuzzy logic!

Jack Vegas 08-30-2013 05:29 PM

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The funny thing is, I have Ingram as the #3 RB on my fantasy football team, and as much as I hate to see him leave the Saints as a Saints fan, I would have a serious edge over every team in my league if my #3 RB was a full-time starter.

thebdj 08-30-2013 05:31 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 521494)
The funny thing is, I have Ingram as the #3 RB on my fantasy football team, and as much as I hate to see him leave the Saints as a Saints fan, I would have a serious edge over every team in my league if my #3 RB was a full-time starter.

We will be sure to drop this into Mickey and Sean's decision making process when they discuss a possible trade scenario hahaha :)

TheOak 08-30-2013 05:48 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 521477)
Funny; no one else is reporting it... I would think that Mike Triplett or the likes would have said something. I don't believe it...

That's your prerogative, however when I hear Pat Kerwin talking about it on nationally syndicated NFLSirius I tend to believe it is more than school girl whispers. There is no guarantee any deal ever gets done but I am fairly confident the conversation has started.

TheOak 08-30-2013 05:58 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
@DConnollyNFL: Rival #NFCSouth GM just told me directly that he is "pissed off" on what the #Saints might be getting for RB Ingram #NFL

@DConnollyNFL: Still, my source within #Saints organization is telling me while talks are ongoing with #Steelers and #NYGiants team is weighing options

@DConnollyNFL: Across the #NFL many are feeling that this is a ploy by Mickey Loomis to have Ingram take a paycut to remain with team #NFL #Saints

Jack Vegas 08-30-2013 05:59 PM

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A paycut? LOL. He's only making like 1 million this year and is on a really reasonable contract.

I have a feeling this twitter guy is a fraud.

TheOak 08-30-2013 06:03 PM

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@DConnollyNFL: Source in #NYGiants organization telling me team is currently offering conditional 4th round pick that could turn into a 3rd & a 7 #Saints

Jack Vegas 08-30-2013 06:03 PM

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Actually,now that I look at his twitter feed, one of his followers is a guy I used to work with and is now the 49ers main beat writer for the SF Chronicle. So maybe there is something there.

homerj07 08-30-2013 06:05 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Uhhh. Do we do this? Not for a 4th. 2nd rd & a conditional pick. At least

TheOak 08-30-2013 06:09 PM

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http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/31/mevede2a.jpg

papz 08-30-2013 06:12 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 521509)
@DConnollyNFL: Source in #NYGiants organization telling me team is currently offering conditional 4th round pick that could turn into a 3rd & a 7 #Saints

Which is exactly what he is worth. That's why I don't see us moving him.

TheOak 08-30-2013 06:16 PM

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@DConnollyNFL: #Saints fans appear to be mixed on Mark Ingram...as soon as I have more details on the situation I will update, situation moving fast #NFL

TheOak 08-30-2013 06:18 PM

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I'm scouring the net to try and verify this cat.. So far he called the Woodson to the Raiders before anyone else.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
The fact that while most teams have begun their final moves while the Saints have done nothing leads credence to the possibility of some sort of trade or contract adjustment. Both would open the cap for another major free agent pickup.

TheOak 08-30-2013 06:18 PM

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@DConnollyNFL: FWIW, the #Saints are mad at me for leaking the story and I've gotten some nasty phone calls, but I'm here to give you all the scoop first


I may have to filet that catfish

Jack Vegas 08-30-2013 06:21 PM

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Judging from the person I know who follows him, I'd guess he is a newspaper person and probably has a legitimate source or two.

That doesn't mean he's not being played by somebody potentially passing false info. The bit about getting Ingram to take a pay cut is really strange considering he's not a big contract. As is the bizarre tweet about "Saints fans" as if what the fans think is actually a factor in a trade discussion.

foreverfan 08-30-2013 06:22 PM

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Well I'm sure Payton remembers the Seattle loss when we ran out of RBs.

Isn't this why we drafted Ingram? If you don't get a kings ransom, you have to keep the 3rd year player in the prime of his carrer.

TheOak 08-30-2013 06:28 PM

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The thing about Holder... He has been asked if the rumors are true on Twitter..... That question is the only one he doesn't answer at all.

TheOak 08-30-2013 06:30 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 521520)
Judging from the person I know who follows him, I'd guess he is a newspaper person and probably has a legitimate source or two.

That doesn't mean he's not being played by somebody potentially passing false info. The bit about getting Ingram to take a pay cut is really strange considering he's not a big contract. As is the bizarre tweet about "Saints fans" as if what the fans think is actually a factor in a trade discussion.

No he is not a big contract but we have rookies making less performing as well.

TheOak 08-30-2013 06:34 PM

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BTW Buford says "sup homies! Who Dat!"
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/31/u2y7ena6.jpg

jnormand 08-30-2013 06:40 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
If this goes down I have a feeling we are going to regret it.

TheOak 08-30-2013 06:43 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 521513)
Which is exactly what he is worth. That's why I don't see us moving him.

"If", and right not that's a big IF, there is a bid war then he will go for higher than face value.


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