Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 

If its a possibility somebody, anybody wants Mark Ingram I say make the trade and good grief don't give them one sec to change there minds. i just have never like him or his 2 yrd and fall down self. i have always liked Thomas the guy may not be the best but i think he is our best back that we got on the roster. The guy runs hard and productive when he does and is a excellent pass catcher. I just don't understand why we don't give him the ball more

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 

Shut it already ... Rookie year injured ... 2nd year no Sean Payton ... We're yet to give him a real shot , till then be a big boy and withhold judgement

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I don't have to wait. I'm already convinced he won't ever be able to live up to that 1st round status ever

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There's no reason to have him on the team... He doesn't do anything that an undrafted RB can't do. If we can get good value in a trade, by God we have to do it. Loomis f'ed up that draft pick... It's ok Saints fans, nobody's perfect.

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I didn't think much of this rumor until the cuts today.

Why keep Cadet AND K-Rob? Just to have a full-time benchwarmer?

Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 

Add that to the Giants cutting two RBs I heard..


That being said we have no more RB than we had last year. All we did was replace Ivory.

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6 ILBs and 3 OLBs is a headscratcher. Obviously we haven't finished finalizing our 53.

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we can afford to trade him. i'd pull the trigger. dude does look faster n he'd probably be good somewhere they'd feed him the rock 20+ times

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this guy is from Atlanta so I'd doubt anything he had to say when it came from him about the saints. I'm living here in New York and ive heard absolutely nothing on this at all not even a mention on any this so relax this is Just a Atlanta fan trying to get in your head

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 

I hope your right, TP reporters are convinced this means we will be running 4-3 again more than 3-4

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We keep 5 RB?? No way - Ingram looks to be on the plans for a trade ! I like the idea alot!

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Guys on this forum scoffed at me when I suggested we should go back to a 4-3 now that we have so much talent on the DL. I see Larry Holder tweeting the same thing now.

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Didn't you know, there is only one opinion allowed on this forum... I am sure you will be told to "quit yammering" and will be educated shortly.

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Its been documented that we're gonna run both. The 3-4 will be our base set, which Ryan said we'll run less than 50% of the time.

Its true we have more d-line talent now, but I think it still fits a 3-4 better.

Jordan, Bunkley, Hicks, JJenkins, Foster all look better suited for a 3-4. Lofton and Vilma now appear a step too slow to play that 4-3MLB and would probably benefit from splitting the field.

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Why sign Haralson if we plan to go back to a 43...

The times we have run a 43 in the preseason we got beat all day long. Our best line-up now is suited for the 34. When Wilson and Galette finally hit the field against ATL we will surprise a lot of teams, hell from what I have heard about Haralson he could be a pro-bowler.

In the preseason we had the 2nd ranked run D, and the 8th ranked total D. Consider we did that without our 3 best OLBs on the field, but keep letting the media and others focus on last year... CANT WAIT!

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It's easier finding 34 Defensive Linemen (though what we have in both Bunkley and Jenkins is rare) than finding four dynamic linemen (really need a rotation of six)...

Dead on about splitting the middle of the field for the MLB, though i've concerns about them engaging/disengaging "active" offensive guards...

But how we didn't draft and make moves to acquire at least one-two more OLB (i.e. Alec Ogletree, Jaime Collins, Jarvis Jones) when transitioning to a 34 is beyond me...

Though I've been a big critic, I didn't like seeing Will Smith injured (though I won a pool that he wouldn't start Week 1) and would have liked him back at DE rotating with Cam Jordan at the 5-tech...

Unless it were someone young like Alec Ogletree or an unsuspended Von Miller, I really don't want to see Ingram geaux not having a proven MotorBack to convert those short yardage gains for us...

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Well we had Butler, Galette, Wilson, Smith, and then drafted Rufus in the 6th, and signed several as UDFA's. Thats plenty of moves. And then trade for Haralson. How can anyone complain about that?

No one can plan on losing 1/2 your projected starters to injuries before training camp is even over.

No one can complain about picking Vaccaro, Armstead, and Jenkins with our 1st three picks.

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3-4, 4-3, 2-3, 1-5, doesn't matter. There's going to be plenty of everything.

Back in 2010, I analyzed the season opener against the Vkings. At the time we were supposedly a 4-3 base defense, but nearly half the snaps in the base defense were in a 3-4, something like 20 snaps there were just 2 linemen on the field, and a couple times on long passing downs there was just one lineman on the field with 3 linebackers and every DB on the roster.

Ryan comes from the same school of defense as GW so I think we'll see a lot of similar stuff. The only issue is we have a whole lot of young players who might have a hard time picking up on all the changes at first.

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Wana bet :)

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They don't listen Jack......

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If we're going to trade Ingram to the Giants (hope we don't), we'll need to get a high to mid round draft pick or a promising pass rusher...

We'll also need to sign a veteran back...

And, it's after Week 1 so vets' contracts won't be guaranteed...

But these are some options...

Willis McGahee
Beanie Wells
Cedric Benson
Kevin Smith
Michael Turner
Ryan Grant

or if Victor Butler comes back and able to contribute, he may take that roster spot...

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I hope they don't.

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Look, I'm sure Ingram is a wonderful person. But frankly, he's terrible at running back. He runs into his blockers, loses 5 yards, then gets off the ground all pissed off, hitting the football, hitting his helmet -- but it's HIS OWN FAULT that he tripped on his own feet. Don't know what he gets all worked up for!

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I don't mind us keeping Ingram but I just want to see Khiry run vs some starters just to see if it creates a spark via Ivory.

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Speaking of Chris Ivory, he looked good yesterday running for 52 yards on 12 carries.

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And a fumble.;)

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Yep. :)

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It's about time he fumbled. It's been a couple years.

I'll take a fumble-a-year 5.0 back over a never-fumble 1.5 back all day on Sunday, Monday nights and then again on Thursday night.

Alaska

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 

With that 1.5 YPC back, your going to have to punt it away anyway.... May as well hole with fumbelina.

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Well for the 5 or 6 games he's actually healthy.;)

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Deflection.

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He was healthy for the first SEVEN games last year that he rode the bench. The offensive coordinator should have been fired for malpractice for that.

He's now being utilized the way he should have been utilized all along.

Yes, I hope this is Hesiman1.5's breakout year, for our sake, but...

Alaska

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 

So true. Our offensive staff doesn't have a clue how to use our players.

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You mean, something like 10 carries for 15 yards no TDs, with the longest run of 7, which would mean on 9 carries it is only .9 a carry?

Hmmm... Maybe riding the bench was what kept him healthy through those 7 games??

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Its really no use. The Ivorytards are gonna compare both their stats evrytime IRvory has a good game and Ingram does not.

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 

At what point did you insert tongue in cheek?

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 

Ingram has yet to have a good game so that's gonna be hard to do.

Alaska

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 

Indy is in the RB market due to Ballard being injured.. id love to be a football player but ain't nobody got time for injuries.

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 

The Colts have Ahmad (China Doll) Bradshaw too!! We could trade Ingram to the Giants and Cadet to the Colts!!

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:rolleyes: