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i know u saw him in preseason running with reckless abandonment as they say, and plenty of reporting that he went all out in offseason staying in shape and running hard and looking very different than when he was hurt in year/s past. but to me he didn't look running like in preseason on the goal line. jmo. i am a huge fan of m. ingram. i just want someone else to try in GOAL LINE, THATS ALL.

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YEA, that came out because of a flashback i had with mark waving a towel with great effort on the bench at a bama game. it was a joke to myself, i showed classless humor sorry. but don't bash my opinion dude if u can't handle my opinion. ok, later my last post on him or u.:givemebeer:

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I don't disagree with that. But it should also be noted that on 3rd down PT was also stuffed for no gain.

The Bucs should be given a little credit here too. That was a great defensive stand. They dominated our O-line on those 4 plays.

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true.

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This thread has not covered this angle: Ingram is tanking vital short runs to beat the spread and bet on ATL and TB this year and GB in his rookie season...dude has a gambling problem.

Another possibility is that, on the very second he was drafted, aliens took his ability to make the first guy miss, to push through initial contact, to get his pad level lower, and to have the vision to find daylight through the O-line.

Conspiracy, folks, conspiracy.

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All we need is a power back, Ingram needs a few screens and open field, he is not a power back. We need to spread the field when he is in, he is being used a$$ backwards. Deuce was a power back, Ingram is not a Duece.

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Can we get a poll going on here....

list of the options with ingram...

Bench him

Play him (its the lines fault)

ect...

?????

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No doubt the oline didn't do their job on a lot of passing plays and running plays, correct me if I am wrong but after re-watching the game it looked like PT gained 2 yds on that play. Either way Ingram is a bust and we wont get anything for him at this point... wish we had Ivory. Yes, Ivory would have gotten injured at some point but at least I wouldn't be hoping he got injured.

Is it wrong for me to hope Ingram goes down this year... Nothing huge but i would like that Toe injury to pop back up...

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Good Lord, this is wrong. Sorry, I've never called anyone out on this forum, but this is this man's livelihood. He is struggling to excel at any level right now at his livelihood and could soon lose this gig, but wishing even minor health problems on any one person is simply wrong.

Knee-jerk frustration I can understand, but this is messed up...badly messed up.

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Frustration brings out the worst in us. But I don't see them benching MI for Robinson or anyone else they didn't do it last year or the year before. Why expect them to now.


I personally would like to see Robinson but that's not likely

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OK OK OK.... So let's say Ingram goes for 70 yds and a TD on 18 carries vs Zona. Toss in 15 yards receiving on 3 catches.

Is he still a bust?

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Unless we're talking about two different plays that's incorrect. I only remember PT getting one carry in that series and he gained 3 yards to get it back to the one after Ingram lost 4.

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Yes. One good game is not going to prove anything and does not make up for the games where he hasnt produced. Now If he were to keep doing that the rest of the season then I will eat crow.

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we can lets say a lot of things about Ingram I highly doubt that he will get anywhere near that .whens the last time he got close to that stat line

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That grass ain't gonna cut it self. :)

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Do you undo 2+ years in 1 game? If that happens we may stop calling for his head for as long as it lasts.... Don't get your hopes up on the mob giving him a thumbs up anytime soon.
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considering he's had 3 games with 70 yrds or more in his time with us


OFF WITH HISHEAD

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Nope, same series, 0 yards

PT just looked better gaining no yards.

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Ask me that when it actually happens.

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Exactly what i saw.

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Well you're kinda right, but he did actually gain a couple. I thought he started from around the 4 but it was actually about the 2 1/2. Can't help but believe if he had been given the number of tries that Ingram got he would have gotten in.
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Now, where's the gif of MI giving up on an open corner and taking a nose dive right into the defender?

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Release him & take the hit?

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That would mean I'd have to watch that play frame by frame. My head would probably explode.

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All I know is this

Heisman runningback + New Orleans Saints = S**t hits the fan

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Steelers need a RB, for those that watched the Monday night game.

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Hindsight is 20/20, if Saints had not traded away that 1st round pick to acquire MI, Goodell could of very easily taken away first round picks instead of the 2nd round picks he stole from the Saints

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I don't know I loved George Rodgers back in the day. I actually Liked Ricky Williams . There just wasn't any way he could live up to the expectations Ditka made for him. I didn't mind Reggie Bush . We have had a couple that weren't bad

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If you put robinson in his place they will.

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Put him in if PT, Robinson, or Sproles goes down. At this point I would rather see us give his snaps to Robinson, at least there may be an upside with him. With Ingram we already know what we have.

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BWAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

Surely that's sarcasm.

Alaska

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Trade him to Detroit, then he can skip one whole move in his life.

Alaska

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Change it to read, "Ingram-tard"?

Alaska

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In all seriousness ... No team can draft 2 Heisman winning running backs where both turn out to busts and the team should be given a free pass to not even consider it might not be a problem with the backs but scheme , blocking etc ... Very different running styles , very different Offensive Line blocking for both in College. The odds of Bush and Ingram being so radically different both being busts are slim to none. It's on us , we're doing something very wrong which is why Sean Payton has been forcing Ingram so much so. He's evaluated so much film in that off year it's probably not even funny. He doesn't want to make the same mistake twice. Different things made them great , but they both had something in common around the same time they were being called busts ... The Saints


We can do the adult thing and admit our O Line couldn't clear enough ground for an ant to squeak through or we can make the same childish 4 year old finger pointing mistake as usual.


Fact , any and everytime Ingram , Sproles , Thomas , Robinson , Ivory , Bell , Bush , Collins , Cadet , get's a decent blocking line , They Shine ...

For 2 weeks I have watched this line get massacred and barely squeak by. Even on Drew's highlight throws he's a millisecond from being sacked. ( Umneyoira on the Colston throw ) This cannot continue , I haven't seen Brees hit that hard and often in a very long time !

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Displaced...

...when his touches have gone over 15, over a couple of games, when he was younger, he's had wear-down type injuries; we've discussed this here before ad nauseum...

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Might not be a bad idea ... Bush already went down in Week 2 with a knee injury, and if his time in New Orleans is any indication, that'll be the status quo. Already got Joique Bell, I'm sure they could find a place for Ingram, :mrgreen:.

Too bad they couldn't of worked something out for Robert Porcher (D/L) prior to him leaving ... the Lions could feed the Saints defensive lineman and the Saints could continue sending running backs Detroit's way, it's a win-win, :lol:.

After reading all the opinions & observations on Ingram and from what I've seen of the lad, you got to use him or lose him ... he's obviously not happy in running-back-by-committee so either give him the carries and let him succeed/fail or send him to Indy/Detroit/Pittsburgh etc... where he'll get the carries and succeed/fail.

Just give him the rock (anywhere) and let him sink or swim ... if he swims, he gets a nice contract, if he sinks, he gets discarded to the NFL junkpile. It's a cruel world, :).

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Tell ya what- Sean better get off his high horse and start one of those other guys because we have 0, and I mean 0 run game right now. I am glad he keeps doing it even though it isn't working, but we need to start to move the ball. MI cannot seem to get it done so bring in the young Robinson and at least give the guy a shot. Back in the day when our running game was stalled we'd bring in Ivory let him knock over like 4 people and that would get the rest of our guys going. We have nothing right now. PT cannot carry the load as a full time RB. Nope. We need to find someone who can get it done.

I have no doubt that MI is a professional and trying to be successful. He just doesn't seem to be able to get it done.

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I am willingly eatting crow on this guy.

He is done. We should have shipped him off. He's never going to get the 15-20 touches "He needs" to "Get up to game speed".

I'm sorry, but he is a bust for the Saints. He may do great things elsewhere; but for us he is taking up space.

Someone pass the pepper please.

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Our run game was stellar last season until Ivory entered the game and everyone responded, the O-line looked better, the backs looked better, he!! even Brees looked better, then they put him on the bench, I did not like that at all. I am a firm believer in if a player has a hot hand keep it going, the entire team can feed off of it. We need someone to give us that spark and Payton to keep that hot hand feed.

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I would not call last years run game stellar. Even when Ivory was finally put in. It improved with him, but not enough.