saintsfan1976

You don't throw the ball 6,000 + times in 172 games and not have wear.

It's obvious Drew is losing some of his arm strength.

What will save it however is a run game that's worth a spit.

Euphoria

the fix is we need a running game.

cmike

Brees under-threw Henderson for years, there's nothing new here, just a little rust.

TheOak

And I'm confident we have that... All day.
Just need to rearrange a few pieces.

saintsfan1976

Define "a few"...

Payton indicated the desire to run a zone blocking scheme.

2013 would be inaugural season, if so.

Do we need 4 new O linemen then??

If not, how long does it take to run an effective zone RBS??

TheOak

Thomas and Sproles the usual... Maybe 5 more touches to Thomas, bench Ingram and lets see if K. Robinson is what we think he is... A Chris Ivory that stays healthy.

Honestly Sproles and Thomas are getting it done as we are.

If you go through the play by play and focus on Ingram, you will see that he had an awful lot of second and third and shorts that he didnt make the 2-3 yards on for a 1st down.

Ingram's YPC is not as damaging as his failures on 2-1, 2-2, 4-1 in the goal line... He didnt get at least 2 first downs and one TD where we needed no more than one to two yards.


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Zone Blocking scheme is actually easier to run and favors fleet footed athletic linemen that usually get over powered by big d-linemen. Ive seen some of that going on lol.

blackangold

IIRC we ran a zone blocking scheme in the 09 season. Thomas was the only one who ran behind that zone scheme and that could have a lot to do with his success. Even with that being said I still blame Ingram for his inability to get the running game going.

Most of his carries are loss of yards or no gains... he actually sets the offense back when he gets the ball. I would hate on the guy less if he actually got 2 ypc. Hell, he even had a false start against Tampa... so disappointed in Ingram.

dueceloose

I care note about Drew's turnovers than him underthrowing deep balls.. can't just give the other team the ball after the d works to give it to u. This isn't hot potato

TheOak

I am amazed each and every day by the ignorance of Drew Brees's contract impact, and the Salary Cap history it self. Does anyone read anymore?

Cap Hits
2008 - 9M
2009 -10.3M
2010 - 12.3M
2011 - 10M
2012 - 10M Carl Nicks and Robert Meachem Gone
2013 - 17.4M Bushrod Henderson Gone

Nicks and Meachem have nothing to do with Drew's Cap hit, they were gone at the end of 2011 and Drew's cap hit was flat through 2012...

Henderson - He took a huge pay cut... We could have afforded him all day. He was a casualty of production, not Drew's Salary. We resigned Meachem for nearly the same amount.
2013 cap hit $840k
2012 cap hit $2.35M

There is only 1 possible Salary Cap sacrifice and Bushrod is not worth $11.7M this year or 13.8M next year. He was manhandled quite a few times last year, or do we all forget.

In 2013 the Saints have 2.7M in cap roll over from 2012 and 2.1M in adjustment from the NFL, Drew's cap hit increased by 7.4M - 4.8M means Drew's HUGINORMOUS contract has effected our salary cap a grand total of 2.8 Million Dolllars. That's all.... No more.... Get over it.... Let it go... Next year we can have this discussion again.


What in the hell does Drew's contract or Cap Space have to do with Kromer?

ScottF

psst... look at LT