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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 So from what you are saying, the Saints offensive line should pick up a ZBS in like 5 minutes or maybe half a practice? What i am saying is that our blocking issues are not scheme ...

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Old 09-17-2013, 02:28 PM   #1
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Re: Between a Rock and a Hard Place ...

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So from what you are saying, the Saints offensive line should pick up a ZBS in like 5 minutes or maybe half a practice?
What i am saying is that our blocking issues are not scheme related, the o-line just doesnt get it done when Ingram touches the ball consistently.... Or the o-line is just not getting it done... Drew's hits, hurries, and sacks tell that story.

Thomas ave 4.8 YPC against Atlanta and 5.8 against Tampon Bay... Do we use a different line for PT to run? Does he have the ability to see running paths that no one else can see? Does our offensive line just dislike Ingram?

Seriously.. When one consistently gets it done and the other doesn't, that sort of narrows some things down, doesn't it?
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Re: Between a Rock and a Hard Place ...

I was joking about how the Saints o-line can easily get over powered by bigger defensive lineman but I like your FACTS, you can't argue against facts
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I was joking about how the Saints o-line can easily get over powered by bigger defensive lineman but I like your FACTS, you can't argue against facts
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Old 09-18-2013, 04:13 AM   #4
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People were talking noise about how he had "lost it" in 2010 too, then he went and had the best year of his career in 2011. I would not be declaring the demise of Drew Brees just yet.
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Old 09-18-2013, 05:06 AM   #5
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I don't think its people getting spoiled that are causing the questions about brees

The thing thats causing the questions are - 4 redzone trips - O TD's - granted a couple were ingram trying to run to the wrong endzone

Throwing into coverage or just making bad decisions

vs atlanta he completely missed the free safety break on the ball and he should have made the easy pick - lucky for us he dropped it, however brees threw a pick 3 plays later anyway

He completely missed the linebacker dropping into coverage vs bucs when trying to force a pass to lance moore - INT , and then once again missed a wide open PT and made a trent dilfer type interception that nearly cost us the game (brees saved it at the end)

I am in no way saying brees should be benched or anything close to that
His decision making needs improvement, he is a 13 year veteran and an elite QB that over the years has become worse with his decisions.

We need our running game to step it up to take some pressure off it but it still doesn't change the fact that he is consistently making questionable decisions and forcing passes like last year - except this year we have a defense

I am convinced if we score 3 - 4 TD's a game our D will do the rest - we've only managed 3 TD's in the last two games combined

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Re: Between a Rock and a Hard Place ...

If Brees keeps taking shots like he has been in the last 2 games none of us will have anything to worry about, he'll be done!!
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I think ya'll are crazy. That just me.
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Re: Between a Rock and a Hard Place ...

Can we make a thread for random fan speculation about how the franchise is going to suddenly burst into flames?
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Never said cut Brees ... Hope he has a career game every game from here on out , same goes for ingram ... Facts and opinions greatly differ and some facts are misguided ... Loomis is a genius of sorts and we need to do something about this blocking one way or another ... You think you're frustrated with ingrams 2 yard carries ... That same family dollar cheap blocking can easily get Brees massacred and god forbid hurt... The line sucks we shouldn't dismiss that because it's ingram struggling back there ... All of out backs are struggling ! Brees is struggling ... Nothing gets done without a line

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Keep dwelling on the joy of being 2-0 well wakeup Monday and be 2-1
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