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09-17-2013, 07:22 PM | #31 |
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09-18-2013, 05:13 AM | #32 |
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People were talking noise about how he had "lost it" in 2010 too, then he went and had the best year of his career in 2011. I would not be declaring the demise of Drew Brees just yet.
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09-18-2013, 05:19 AM | #33 |
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Originally Posted by SaintsBro
I am with you 100%, the doom and gloom about Brees is baffling to me. Maybe 2013 Brees isn't quite as good as 2011 Brees or 2009 Brees, but he's still one of the very elite QBs in the league. This is all going to come together at some point, just got to be patient.
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09-18-2013, 06:06 AM | #34 |
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I don't think its people getting spoiled that are causing the questions about brees
The thing thats causing the questions are - 4 redzone trips - O TD's - granted a couple were ingram trying to run to the wrong endzone Throwing into coverage or just making bad decisions vs atlanta he completely missed the free safety break on the ball and he should have made the easy pick - lucky for us he dropped it, however brees threw a pick 3 plays later anyway He completely missed the linebacker dropping into coverage vs bucs when trying to force a pass to lance moore - INT , and then once again missed a wide open PT and made a trent dilfer type interception that nearly cost us the game (brees saved it at the end) I am in no way saying brees should be benched or anything close to that His decision making needs improvement, he is a 13 year veteran and an elite QB that over the years has become worse with his decisions. We need our running game to step it up to take some pressure off it but it still doesn't change the fact that he is consistently making questionable decisions and forcing passes like last year - except this year we have a defense I am convinced if we score 3 - 4 TD's a game our D will do the rest - we've only managed 3 TD's in the last two games combined |
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09-18-2013, 07:02 AM | #35 |
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Originally Posted by Boutte
Totally Disagree.
Stills is going to be better; Devery and Morgan didn't even see the field or figure as prominently in the passing pecking order as Stills has. Make no mistake - Brees' shoulder is weakening, it was reconstructed before he signed with the Saints - a big risk this team took to acquire him. And when the shoulder finally goes, so will the Saints; no passing game and no room to get another quarterback, nor the lcomplementary players' to make for an easier transition... Those two reasons, the declining, aging shoulder and the cap consuming number, were why I didn't like the Brees contract... In fact, maybe naive, but was surprised that Brees, who goes to great lengths to push the Team First Image, wasn't smart enough to engage in a 16mil/annum contract a year earlier - realizing a cap friendlier contract could have kept Nicks to protect him was BOTH his and team self-interests... Instead, the Saints were put in a lurch with a highly paid contract to Grubbs and left with none, no maneuvering room for to make personnel moves... Thank the maker that we finally started picking winners again in the draft or we'd be screwed right now; the Vaccaro forced turnover and the Stills deep ball (which he had to slow to catch an underthrown ball) were the two biggest plays in the Saints win in Week 1... |
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If Brees keeps taking shots like he has been in the last 2 games none of us will have anything to worry about, he'll be done!!
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I think ya'll are crazy. That just me.
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Can we make a thread for random fan speculation about how the franchise is going to suddenly burst into flames?
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Never said cut Brees ... Hope he has a career game every game from here on out , same goes for ingram ... Facts and opinions greatly differ and some facts are misguided ... Loomis is a genius of sorts and we need to do something about this blocking one way or another ... You think you're frustrated with ingrams 2 yard carries ... That same family dollar cheap blocking can easily get Brees massacred and god forbid hurt... The line sucks we shouldn't dismiss that because it's ingram struggling back there ... All of out backs are struggling ! Brees is struggling ... Nothing gets done without a line
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Keep dwelling on the joy of being 2-0 well wakeup Monday and be 2-1
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