Loss to pats on Payton and Brees

iceshack149 · 10-14-2013, 02:20 PM

I love this board but Halo's right. You'd think that the Saints were 1-4 like the Falcons and even if they were, we should see some better banter. Many of the discussions lately are weak and people want to blame a team game on one person or the refs that were so obviously paid off

.

I still love this team and have since they were 1-15 in 1981. We are lucky to have one of the best Head Coach/Quarterback combos in the NFL. Enjoy it, people!

Edit: By the way, the Saints are tied with the best record in the NFC. They are on track to end up with the #1 or #2 seed. Perspective...

UK_WhoDat · 10-14-2013, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I think your right with the ego assumption.
Anytime Brees has a 47% completion rating you know something has gone wrong. Has Brees ever had that low of a percentage?

Recent low completion percentage games are:
(Year; Game number %age)
2013:2 56.5%, Tampa
2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta
2012:8 52.4%;
2012:3 55.6%;
2012:1 46.2%
Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com
Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

SaintsBro · 10-14-2013, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

Well I have said for a long time that the loss to Atlanta last year was "ego-driven" because of the streak. The Falcons knew that Brees and Carmichael were gonna go for the TD pass, whenever possible, and they did a really great job of taking it away from him, and keeping the passing game in front of them. The Falcons had a "whatever you do, don't give up the big passing play" mentality on defense. The more the game went on, the more desperate Brees got, and next thing you know it was the badly forced two minute drive to end the half, and then it turned into interception city in the second half.

I don't think in the Graham case yesterday it was "ego." I think it was just, dependency --the thing has *always* worked before, and they had gotten a little too reliant on going to him.

blackangold · 10-14-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Recent low completion percentage games are:
(Year; Game number %age)
2013:2 56.5%, Tampa
2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta
2012:8 52.4%;
2012:3 55.6%;
2012:1 46.2%
Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com
Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

Ego driven or not the only game we won on that list was this year against Tampa. Brees has a bad game and we lose (typically). It has been a great start to the season and being 5-1 at this point is better than I thought (4-2). We have an easy shot at the #2 seed, and we'll fight for #1.

One thing is for sure, had the NE game been played in the DOME we walk away with an easy win.

jlouhill · 10-14-2013, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Falcons91

That was no where near the patriots best football bro, sorry. They played good enough to beat the saints but they were missing alot of key guys and definitely could have played better.

You don't hear a peep out of them while we're winning and they're getting their butts handed to them weekly. We lose one game and here they come. That's ok. 3 1/2. That's how many games y'all are behind us. How's the view from down there?

Euphoria · 10-14-2013, 06:20 PM

The game was lost 2:33 left to go in the game.

You don't give Brady to chances to win the game with only a 1 point lead. You get the first down... you take a shot at the end zone and go up by 8. Hell you could even go for two and make damn sure they couldn't beat you with a 8 point TD.

skymike · 10-14-2013, 06:47 PM

Learn a wise lesson from the fig tree, Grasshopper.

It takes an army to lose a battle. One warrior does not fail.
Do not become as the Texan fan, with their foolish tongues.

For they curse one warrior, who is then replaced by another,
who immediately throws a pick 6.

They rejoice when their own leader is wounded.
Karma has visited their house.

Remain wise & courageous.

BOOOOOOOOZH! (gong)

|Mitch| · 10-14-2013, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

Learn a wise lesson from the fig tree, Grasshopper.

It takes an army to lose a battle. One warrior does not fail.
Do not become as the Texan fan, with their foolish tongues.

For they curse one warrior, who is then replaced by another,
who immediately throws a pick 6.

They rejoice when their own leader is wounded.
Karma has visited their house.

Remain wise & courageous.

BOOOOOOOOZH! (gong)

Marlboro Man · 10-14-2013, 11:09 PM

You know, I haven't heard Payton or Drew open their mouths about this game.

WHODATINCA · 10-14-2013, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

2011 who called the plays that lead to a historical offense? Carmichael.

2012 who called the plays for the offense that lead the league (offense that was good enough to have a 7-9 record with the worst Defense in the history of the NFL)? Carmichael.

Who said that if his play calling doesn't get better he will turn it over (to Carmichael)? oh yeah, it was Payton.

Are you new, or do you not realize how well our offense has functioned when SP hasn't called the plays?

Hmmmm...good points. I just remember the losing. Retracted. Apologies.

10-14-2013, 02:20 PM	#81
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,443 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees I love this board but Halo's right. You'd think that the Saints were 1-4 like the Falcons and even if they were, we should see some better banter. Many of the discussions lately are weak and people want to blame a team game on one person or the refs that were so obviously paid off . I still love this team and have since they were 1-15 in 1981. We are lucky to have one of the best Head Coach/Quarterback combos in the NFL. Enjoy it, people! Edit: By the way, the Saints are tied with the best record in the NFC. They are on track to end up with the #1 or #2 seed. Perspective...
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10-14-2013, 02:39 PM	#82
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,004	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by blackangold I think your right with the ego assumption. Anytime Brees has a 47% completion rating you know something has gone wrong. Has Brees ever had that low of a percentage? Recent low completion percentage games are: (Year; Game number %age) 2013:2 56.5%, Tampa 2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta 2012:8 52.4%; 2012:3 55.6%; 2012:1 46.2% Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

10-14-2013, 03:09 PM	#83
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Question. Were any of these also ego driven? Well I have said for a long time that the loss to Atlanta last year was "ego-driven" because of the streak. The Falcons knew that Brees and Carmichael were gonna go for the TD pass, whenever possible, and they did a really great job of taking it away from him, and keeping the passing game in front of them. The Falcons had a "whatever you do, don't give up the big passing play" mentality on defense. The more the game went on, the more desperate Brees got, and next thing you know it was the badly forced two minute drive to end the half, and then it turned into interception city in the second half. I don't think in the Graham case yesterday it was "ego." I think it was just, dependency --the thing has always worked before, and they had gotten a little too reliant on going to him.

10-14-2013, 04:52 PM	#84
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Recent low completion percentage games are: (Year; Game number %age) 2013:2 56.5%, Tampa 2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta 2012:8 52.4%; 2012:3 55.6%; 2012:1 46.2% Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com Question. Were any of these also ego driven? Ego driven or not the only game we won on that list was this year against Tampa. Brees has a bad game and we lose (typically). It has been a great start to the season and being 5-1 at this point is better than I thought (4-2). We have an easy shot at the #2 seed, and we'll fight for #1. One thing is for sure, had the NE game been played in the DOME we walk away with an easy win.

10-14-2013, 06:12 PM	#85
jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by Falcons91 That was no where near the patriots best football bro, sorry. They played good enough to beat the saints but they were missing alot of key guys and definitely could have played better. You don't hear a peep out of them while we're winning and they're getting their butts handed to them weekly. We lose one game and here they come. That's ok. 3 1/2. That's how many games y'all are behind us. How's the view from down there? SaintsBro likes this.

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10-14-2013, 06:20 PM	#86
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees The game was lost 2:33 left to go in the game. You don't give Brady to chances to win the game with only a 1 point lead. You get the first down... you take a shot at the end zone and go up by 8. Hell you could even go for two and make damn sure they couldn't beat you with a 8 point TD. saintfan, SloMotion, onebyone and 1 others like this.

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skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Learn a wise lesson from the fig tree, Grasshopper. It takes an army to lose a battle. One warrior does not fail. Do not become as the Texan fan, with their foolish tongues. For they curse one warrior, who is then replaced by another, who immediately throws a pick 6. They rejoice when their own leader is wounded. Karma has visited their house. Remain wise & courageous. BOOOOOOOOZH! (gong) iceshack149, 73Saint, AlaskaSaints and 1 others like this.
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10-14-2013, 06:51 PM	#88
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by skymike Learn a wise lesson from the fig tree, Grasshopper. It takes an army to lose a battle. One warrior does not fail. Do not become as the Texan fan, with their foolish tongues. For they curse one warrior, who is then replaced by another, who immediately throws a pick 6. They rejoice when their own leader is wounded. Karma has visited their house. Remain wise & courageous. BOOOOOOOOZH! (gong)

10-14-2013, 11:09 PM	#89
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees You know, I haven't heard Payton or Drew open their mouths about this game.

10-14-2013, 11:54 PM	#90
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by blackangold 2011 who called the plays that lead to a historical offense? Carmichael. 2012 who called the plays for the offense that lead the league (offense that was good enough to have a 7-9 record with the worst Defense in the history of the NFL)? Carmichael. Who said that if his play calling doesn't get better he will turn it over (to Carmichael)? oh yeah, it was Payton. Are you new, or do you not realize how well our offense has functioned when SP hasn't called the plays? Hmmmm...good points. I just remember the losing. Retracted. Apologies.

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