Incognito or Martin - Would you want them??

MtnExile · 11-05-2013, 11:42 AM

Shockey may have been a "douchebag"; but, if reports are to be believed, Incognito is an abusive psychopath.

Besides: HE'S A GUARD. Who do we sit, Evans or Grubbs, in order to let Incognito see the field? Or did you just want him for his locker room value?

SaintsBro · 11-05-2013, 11:54 AM

No, because the "difficult" or "troubled" players that Sean Payton has chosen to take chances on and rehabilitate, guys like Anthony Hargrove, Shockey, Carl Nicks, and to a lesser extent Vilma, McCray, Heath Evans, these are guys who make poor decisions or bad behavioral issues, poor choices in friends, inexperience, things like that. That stuff you can teach, and fix.

But THIS guy's problem is way beyond douchebag or irresponsible, it represents a deeper character issue, that cannot be easily corrected. If it can even be corrected at all, at his age. No way.

nola_swammi · 11-05-2013, 11:56 AM

I will not be a saints fan til ALL that involve in him signing with the saints are gone! That means the owner, general manager and even possible the coaches. This will be the worst thing to ever happen to me, I don't even want to think of him signing with the saints. Do he deserve another chance to play with a nfl team? probally after some years pass and psych evaluation but not with the saints

TheOak · 11-05-2013, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by MtnExile

Shockey may have been a "douchebag"; but, if reports are to be believed, Incognito is an abusive psychopath.

Besides: HE'S A GUARD. Who do we sit, Evans or Grubbs, in order to let Incognito see the field? Or did you just want him for his locker room value?

I would throw racist in there also..

I actually laughed out loud at the "locker room value" comment.

darksoul35 · 11-05-2013, 12:14 PM

At least the O line we have now are humbley sucking if that's even a word. I actually feel sorry for our terrible offensive line. If we had him I would want bad things to happen to us.. No thanks.

TheOak · 11-05-2013, 12:19 PM

Max California ~ "If you dance with the devil, the devil don't change. The devil changes you."

AlaskaSaints · 11-05-2013, 12:23 PM

Hell no.

Alaska

WhoDat2301 · 11-05-2013, 12:29 PM

All great points I can see the not parts. Thanks for the discussion on this. I do feel that our O-line needs someone nasty on it. Its like we have no "drive". We look pathetic. We need a K.Turley.

The Dude · 11-05-2013, 12:42 PM

Why would you even joke about that?

ScottF · 11-05-2013, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat2301

I get that he is a douche bag off the field but remember Shocky was suppose to be that way also and SP keep him in check. Do you not think SP would have him under control if he is picked up?? Our O-line has no fight in them we need his type of enforcement, his nastyness, on the line. I really think thats what they are missing.

Comparing Turley or Shockey to a racist bully who threatens his teammates' lives? not even sure what to say about that

11-05-2013, 11:42 AM	#11
MtnExile Rookie Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 4	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? Shockey may have been a "douchebag"; but, if reports are to be believed, Incognito is an abusive psychopath. Besides: HE'S A GUARD. Who do we sit, Evans or Grubbs, in order to let Incognito see the field? Or did you just want him for his locker room value? Halo, Crusader, Barry from MS and 4 others like this.
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11-05-2013, 11:54 AM	#12
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? No, because the "difficult" or "troubled" players that Sean Payton has chosen to take chances on and rehabilitate, guys like Anthony Hargrove, Shockey, Carl Nicks, and to a lesser extent Vilma, McCray, Heath Evans, these are guys who make poor decisions or bad behavioral issues, poor choices in friends, inexperience, things like that. That stuff you can teach, and fix. But THIS guy's problem is way beyond douchebag or irresponsible, it represents a deeper character issue, that cannot be easily corrected. If it can even be corrected at all, at his age. No way. Garry42 likes this.

11-05-2013, 11:56 AM	#13
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? I will not be a saints fan til ALL that involve in him signing with the saints are gone! That means the owner, general manager and even possible the coaches. This will be the worst thing to ever happen to me, I don't even want to think of him signing with the saints. Do he deserve another chance to play with a nfl team? probally after some years pass and psych evaluation but not with the saints

11-05-2013, 12:01 PM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? Originally Posted by MtnExile Shockey may have been a "douchebag"; but, if reports are to be believed, Incognito is an abusive psychopath. Besides: HE'S A GUARD. Who do we sit, Evans or Grubbs, in order to let Incognito see the field? Or did you just want him for his locker room value? I would throw racist in there also.. I actually laughed out loud at the "locker room value" comment.

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darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? At least the O line we have now are humbley sucking if that's even a word. I actually feel sorry for our terrible offensive line. If we had him I would want bad things to happen to us.. No thanks.
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WhoDat2301 WDN Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Travis AFB, CA Posts: 106	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? All great points I can see the not parts. Thanks for the discussion on this. I do feel that our O-line needs someone nasty on it. Its like we have no "drive". We look pathetic. We need a K.Turley.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? Originally Posted by WhoDat2301 I get that he is a douche bag off the field but remember Shocky was suppose to be that way also and SP keep him in check. Do you not think SP would have him under control if he is picked up?? Our O-line has no fight in them we need his type of enforcement, his nastyness, on the line. I really think thats what they are missing. Comparing Turley or Shockey to a racist bully who threatens his teammates' lives? not even sure what to say about that

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