Incognito or Martin - Would you want them??

dueceloose · 11-06-2013, 06:07 PM

Richie isn't Saint material and we dnt need more bad press after the bounty stuff.

Beastmode · 11-06-2013, 06:16 PM

I seriously doubt a real racist could work for a company where over 65% of the employees are black and do it for 13 years if you count college.

Could you imagine working for McDonalds and the sight of hamburgers makes you mad as hell but you still do it for 13 years...come on.

skymike · 11-06-2013, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I seriously doubt a real racist could work for a company where over 65% of the employees are black and do it for 13 years if you count college.

Could you imagine working for McDonalds and the sight of hamburgers makes you mad as hell but you still do it for 13 years...come on.

I was thinking that too. That would be like working at Yellow CAb and hating people from other countries. Again, this whole story is fishy:

RI was "bullying/harassing" his LT. He said the Forbidden Word.
He also said he would slap his mother. Im having trouble believing there was
a real threat to this happening.
RI and other guys talked a lot of smack to each other already.
RI was pushed by management to toughen up LT.
RI & LT were best friends.
Some kicker (and we know kickers are ghey) says RI has issues.
We do know that RI plays like Conrad Dobler. (google him, kids)

Understand, Im not trying to defend anyone, as much as I want to cut thru the crap, and know the truth. And when I hear Forbidden Words, Bullying, Sexual Harassment, Gay Bashing, Failure to Recycle, Not Being Green, and Calling People Indians, I want to start over, and just hear some facts in context.

TheOak · 11-07-2013, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I seriously doubt a real racist could work for a company where over 65% of the employees are black and do it for 13 years if you count college.

Could you imagine working for McDonalds and the sight of hamburgers makes you mad as hell but you still do it for 13 years...come on.

That logic would make slaves 150+ years ago white.

Racism does not always come in the form of hate... It more often comes in the form of the feeling of superiority.

A 30 year old, grown assed, college educated man has no excuse.

That being said, Incognito isn't the biggest idiot in this scenario. The impotent coach that uses maligned peer pressure to motivate his players is.

hagan714 · 11-07-2013, 06:36 AM

see i have been reading these and following the case a bit. your guilty after the facts are heard. all the facts. we are no were near that point. till then i will not pass judgement and would not be upset if the saints were talking to him just encase all of this is not as bad as it is made out in the media from day one. even the media is back tracking now. so let this play out then if guilty hang the guy. copy and paste

TheOak · 11-07-2013, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

see i have been reading these and following the case a bit. your guilty after the facts are heard. all the facts. we are no were near that point. till then i will not pass judgement and would not be upset if the saints were talking to him just encase all of this is not as bad as it is made out in the media from day one. even the media is back tracking now. so let this play out then if guilty hang the guy. copy and paste

The message martin received is all I need to know. There is absolutely zero plausible reason for it. We are not a court of law, he is guilty of that message. Found guilty in a court of law is also no litmus test of whether someone did something or not.

Talking to him about what? He hasn't been released, the trade deadline has passed, and we do not have the cap space.

exile · 11-07-2013, 09:14 AM

Here is an interesting read on Incognito including how he got his last name.

Also, I was listing to Dan Patrick this morning and he had Armondo on a call. Armondo mentioned that he heard the voicemail and at the end Incognito laughs and says "okay, call me back" in a tone like it was friendly. I don't know. But what an interesting spectacle.

He also said that when the media entered the locker room yesterday in Miami that the players had a circus theme playing loudly.

From Article: Those who know Incognito say he gets his fire from his father, Richard Sr., the son of an Italian father and German mother who immigrated to the United States. Richard likes to tell the story of the Incognito name: When his father was processed at Ellis Island, he said he did not want to keep his family name, so the official bestowed upon him the name “Incognito.”

Read more here: For Richie Incognito, a life of intimidation now put on hold - Miami Dolphins - MiamiHerald.com

xan · 11-07-2013, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

see i have been reading these and following the case a bit. your guilty after the facts are heard. all the facts. we are no were near that point. till then i will not pass judgement and would not be upset if the saints were talking to him just encase all of this is not as bad as it is made out in the media from day one. even the media is back tracking now. so let this play out then if guilty hang the guy. copy and paste

Judge slowly. You have only one real chance to get it right.

Choupique · 11-07-2013, 09:11 AM

our coaching staff likely had the same opportunity to sign incognito as any NFL team...

they didn't.

i don't presume to second guess professionals such as our coach. i let them make the choices. i also allow pilots to fly planes without my input.

whomever THEY sign, is who i'm loyal to.

WhoDat2301 · 11-07-2013, 09:56 AM

We are doing exactly what everyone else did to us with the Bountygate crap to Incognito. We are judging the guy off what the media is giving us. We dont know the whole truth. We were quick to defend the Saints when the media was not giving out everything now we are bashing Incognito without the whole story. Come on now!! We expected more out of the people bashing us and now we are doing the same. Lets get the facts out.

11-06-2013, 06:07 PM	#1
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11-06-2013, 06:16 PM	#2
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? I seriously doubt a real racist could work for a company where over 65% of the employees are black and do it for 13 years if you count college. Could you imagine working for McDonalds and the sight of hamburgers makes you mad as hell but you still do it for 13 years...come on. SloMotion likes this.
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11-06-2013, 06:33 PM	#3
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? Originally Posted by Beastmode I seriously doubt a real racist could work for a company where over 65% of the employees are black and do it for 13 years if you count college. Could you imagine working for McDonalds and the sight of hamburgers makes you mad as hell but you still do it for 13 years...come on. I was thinking that too. That would be like working at Yellow CAb and hating people from other countries. Again, this whole story is fishy: RI was "bullying/harassing" his LT. He said the Forbidden Word. He also said he would slap his mother. Im having trouble believing there was a real threat to this happening. RI and other guys talked a lot of smack to each other already. RI was pushed by management to toughen up LT. RI & LT were best friends. Some kicker (and we know kickers are ghey) says RI has issues. We do know that RI plays like Conrad Dobler. (google him, kids) Understand, Im not trying to defend anyone, as much as I want to cut thru the crap, and know the truth. And when I hear Forbidden Words, Bullying, Sexual Harassment, Gay Bashing, Failure to Recycle, Not Being Green, and Calling People Indians, I want to start over, and just hear some facts in context. exile and SloMotion like this.

11-07-2013, 04:49 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? Originally Posted by Beastmode I seriously doubt a real racist could work for a company where over 65% of the employees are black and do it for 13 years if you count college. Could you imagine working for McDonalds and the sight of hamburgers makes you mad as hell but you still do it for 13 years...come on. That logic would make slaves 150+ years ago white. Racism does not always come in the form of hate... It more often comes in the form of the feeling of superiority. A 30 year old, grown assed, college educated man has no excuse. That being said, Incognito isn't the biggest idiot in this scenario. The impotent coach that uses maligned peer pressure to motivate his players is. WHODATINCA likes this.

11-07-2013, 06:36 AM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? see i have been reading these and following the case a bit. your guilty after the facts are heard. all the facts. we are no were near that point. till then i will not pass judgement and would not be upset if the saints were talking to him just encase all of this is not as bad as it is made out in the media from day one. even the media is back tracking now. so let this play out then if guilty hang the guy. copy and paste xan and WhoDat2301 like this.

11-07-2013, 06:52 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? Originally Posted by hagan714 see i have been reading these and following the case a bit. your guilty after the facts are heard. all the facts. we are no were near that point. till then i will not pass judgement and would not be upset if the saints were talking to him just encase all of this is not as bad as it is made out in the media from day one. even the media is back tracking now. so let this play out then if guilty hang the guy. copy and paste The message martin received is all I need to know. There is absolutely zero plausible reason for it. We are not a court of law, he is guilty of that message. Found guilty in a court of law is also no litmus test of whether someone did something or not. Talking to him about what? He hasn't been released, the trade deadline has passed, and we do not have the cap space.

11-07-2013, 09:14 AM	#7
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? Here is an interesting read on Incognito including how he got his last name. Also, I was listing to Dan Patrick this morning and he had Armondo on a call. Armondo mentioned that he heard the voicemail and at the end Incognito laughs and says "okay, call me back" in a tone like it was friendly. I don't know. But what an interesting spectacle. He also said that when the media entered the locker room yesterday in Miami that the players had a circus theme playing loudly. From Article: Those who know Incognito say he gets his fire from his father, Richard Sr., the son of an Italian father and German mother who immigrated to the United States. Richard likes to tell the story of the Incognito name: When his father was processed at Ellis Island, he said he did not want to keep his family name, so the official bestowed upon him the name “Incognito.” Read more here: For Richie Incognito, a life of intimidation now put on hold - Miami Dolphins - MiamiHerald.com
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	One thing I learned from drinking. You should always go Christmas caroling with a group. Oh, and always in mid-December.

11-07-2013, 09:07 AM	#8
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? Originally Posted by hagan714 see i have been reading these and following the case a bit. your guilty after the facts are heard. all the facts. we are no were near that point. till then i will not pass judgement and would not be upset if the saints were talking to him just encase all of this is not as bad as it is made out in the media from day one. even the media is back tracking now. so let this play out then if guilty hang the guy. copy and paste Judge slowly. You have only one real chance to get it right.

11-07-2013, 09:11 AM	#9
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? our coaching staff likely had the same opportunity to sign incognito as any NFL team... they didn't. i don't presume to second guess professionals such as our coach. i let them make the choices. i also allow pilots to fly planes without my input. whomever THEY sign, is who i'm loyal to.
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11-07-2013, 09:56 AM	#10
WhoDat2301 WDN Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Travis AFB, CA Posts: 106	Re: Incognito - Would you want him?? We are doing exactly what everyone else did to us with the Bountygate crap to Incognito. We are judging the guy off what the media is giving us. We dont know the whole truth. We were quick to defend the Saints when the media was not giving out everything now we are bashing Incognito without the whole story. Come on now!! We expected more out of the people bashing us and now we are doing the same. Lets get the facts out. saintsfan1976, skymike and Rickh like this.

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