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pherein 11-16-2013 10:20 PM
Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 547778)
Prediction...
If he's hit 3 yards behind the line, he won't gain much.
If the O-line opens up decent holes for him, he'll play well.
hmm your right, if he gets easy holes, 10 yards of free space before hes tackled by the 1st guy, MI will shine in that environment. That isnt a RB, anyone can do that. So , easy prediction, hell I could do that, lol.

Danno 11-16-2013 11:36 PM
Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pherein (Post 548551)
hmm your right, if he gets easy holes, 10 yards of free space before hes tackled by the 1st guy, MI will shine in that environment. That isnt a RB, anyone can do that. So , easy prediction, hell I could do that, lol.
I didn't say easy holes and 10 yards of space before he gets hit by the 1st guy!
How in the hell did you read that?

pherein 11-17-2013 12:01 AM
Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 548557)
I didn't say easy holes and 10 yards of space before he gets hit by the 1st guy!
How in the hell did you read that?
Yeah you did
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If the O-line opens up decent holes for him, he'll play well.
what, he cant see where to run if he doesnt have a clear 3-4 play hole?
RB's make their own holes, hit a brick wall and fail, then step up and find a way to beat the defense with forsight, moves, and timing. None of which MI has shown, unless he has a well defined easy hole to run threw.
PT has shown that he dosnt need the OL alot of times. PT is not elite, but hes a serious RB.

You think B.sanders with his OL with the lions cared that they were the worst in the NFL? Some have it some dont. MI has alot to prove, and at that moment hes no RB, because no one is even marginally afraid of him. Truthfully defenses are probably relieved when MI is in.
Real simple, you run MI and he cost us more 3rd downs, Im not going to be happy. Do it or get off the field.

Danno 11-17-2013 08:20 AM
Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pherein (Post 548559)
Yeah you did


what, he cant see where to run if he doesnt have a clear 3-4 play hole?
RB's make their own holes, hit a brick wall and fail, then step up and find a way to beat the defense with forsight, moves, and timing. None of which MI has shown, unless he has a well defined easy hole to run threw.
PT has shown that he dosnt need the OL alot of times. PT is not elite, but hes a serious RB.

You think B.sanders with his OL with the lions cared that they were the worst in the NFL? Some have it some dont. MI has alot to prove, and at that moment hes no RB, because no one is even marginally afraid of him. Truthfully defenses are probably relieved when MI is in.
Real simple, you run MI and he cost us more 3rd downs, Im not going to be happy. Do it or get off the field.
Decent holes does not equal easy holes and doesn't mean he'll get 10 yards before 1st contact.

Jack Vegas 11-17-2013 01:38 PM
Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Are people still talking about this? Good grief

pherein 11-17-2013 07:09 PM
Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 548588)
Decent holes does not equal easy holes and doesn't mean he'll get 10 yards before 1st contact.
yeah it does, if you only have speed. I do give credit to MI for that run up the middle, and the fight for 1 yard today. Thats what I want to see.

PT ran better though.

|Mitch| 11-17-2013 07:13 PM
Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Ingram had our longest run of the day and only ran the rock 6 times... What the hell happened to our O-Line? Blocking like professionals these past two game :bng:

TheOak 11-18-2013 06:36 AM
Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 549036)
Ingram had our longest run of the day and only ran the rock 6 times... What the hell happened to our O-Line? Blocking like professionals these past two game :bng:
It took longer than expected for our O-line to get healthy and for zone blocking to become second nature.

TheOak 11-22-2013 07:53 AM
Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Back to Ingram.

He has returned to his 3.6 YPC but that isnt my biggest issue.

1. Graham stiff arms CBs and Safetys and they move. Ingrams stiff arm moves him back.

2. Ingram should have had a lot better stats but that cats vision is poor. He misses two gaping holes last night, one so huge they replayed and talked about it.

3. He has no business trying to run around the ends, he doesn't have the speed. He focuses so hard on getting around the end he misses cutbacks.

* WTF is with all that bee swatting after his runs?


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