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cmsaint 11-12-2013 01:15 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
First time opening this thread and Im not going to bother reading all 50 pages but I will add my 2 cents.

Ingram's showing was great and all but I hated it. Now the staff will think they need to give him his fair touches and he has already proven he is average at best. PT is the more polished/serviceable back. Nothing good will come of this and its not a loyalty issue. If anything its the fans being loyal to the franchise. The ingram experiment failed a long time ago.

SaintsBro 11-12-2013 01:16 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 547343)
We seem to pile up on the Sproles type backs and never really get a powerhouse 1-3 yard back that can carry a pile.

This post has nothing to do with anything, just a stroll down memory lane.... but I'm sorry, I can't hear the words "carry the pile" without thinking about THIS---


One of my all time favorite plays ever witnessed in the Dome, period. Look at how depressed #29 for the Eagles looks, after the play -- his body language, he can't believe what just happened.

The Dude 11-12-2013 01:27 PM

Re: Attn: Ingram Naysayers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 547369)
Move to Atlanta.

If you can't be loyal to your own team, don't be anything.

Just move to a lame place such as Detroit, Dallas or Atlanta.

Loyalty proves honor, RIGHT?

I'm glad our team hung in with Ingram.

I'm glad P Thomas took him under his wing and showed loyalty to a team mate.

Perhaps that'll teach SOME of you a thing or two about honor and loyalty.

Two Dat.

Dance with the one who brung ya.

Good Job Ingram!

Not liking a player because he doesnt get the job done is not being disloyal. Just because a player is on the team doesnt mean he is the best option if he sucks. I think most of us want Ingram to succeed, but he has proven he can't get it done on a regular basis. Hell I hope this was his breakout game and the light finally clicked on, but after 3 years I doubt it.

TheOak 11-12-2013 01:29 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmsaint (Post 547462)
First time opening this thread and Im not going to bother reading all 50 pages but I will add my 2 cents.

Ingram's showing was great and all but I hated it. Now the staff will think they need to give him his fair touches and he has already proven he is average at best. PT is the more polished/serviceable back. Nothing good will come of this and its not a loyalty issue. If anything its the fans being loyal to the franchise. The ingram experiment failed a long time ago.

I wouldn't be so quick to think that our Front Office is sold just yet. What I expect is they will go with the hot hand against the 49ers to start and see how it plays out. If he stalls then PT will get his carries as long as he is gaining.

*Caveat - I still from memory think we switched back to man/gap run blocking against Dallas, and if we did then Katy bar the door because we will have another 100+ yard rushing game.

The Dude 11-12-2013 01:33 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 547470)
I wouldn't be so quick to think that our Front Office is sold just yet. What I expect is they will go with the hot hand against the 49ers to start and see how it plays out. If he stalls then PT will get his carries as long as he is gaining.

*Caveat - I still from memory think we switched back to man/gap run blocking against Dallas, and if we did then Katy bar the door because we will have another 100+ yard rushing game.



I REALLY hope this is the case and a matter of adjustment and not just a fluke against a Dallas ****ty banged up D. It would be awesome if Payton has found a way to make this unit better. If our line can play like that the rest of the year we will get to the SB. Guaranteed.

TheOak 11-12-2013 01:36 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 547474)
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I REALLY hope this is the case and a matter of adjustment and not just a fluke against a Dallas ****ty banged up D. It would be awesome if Payton has found a way to make this unit better. If our line can play like that the rest of the year we will get to the SB. Guaranteed.

I cant find anything that says we changed anything and someone would have pointed it out.

I do know one thing from playing o-line.. It HAS to be cohesive and that takes time. There is the possibility that our o-line is now healthy and they gelled after the Jets game finally. In witch case there are many great things to come.

Again, its like synchronized swilling; all in unison and its beautiful. Just one person doing his own thing and it looks like cr4p and defenders get into our back field.

cmsaint 11-12-2013 02:15 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 547470)
I wouldn't be so quick to think that our Front Office is sold just yet. What I expect is they will go with the hot hand against the 49ers to start and see how it plays out. If he stalls then PT will get his carries as long as he is gaining.

*Caveat - I still from memory think we switched back to man/gap run blocking against Dallas, and if we did then Katy bar the door because we will have another 100+ yard rushing game.

While that sounds good going with the hot hand it seems to have burned us one to many times. It seems to eventually turn into no one back getting into rhythm so we go even more pass heavy which is never good. Im kind of generalizing here but I hope im wrong.

However, its been proven that we are OK with PT and sporles mixing it up. 2's company, 3's a crowd.

TheOak 11-12-2013 02:19 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
RB rhythm is a myth/

Mardigras9 11-12-2013 02:42 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 546776)
Break out game for ingram ? ?

or even a blind squirrel finds a nut?
Finally had good blocking from the o-line and Jed.
We'll see, love to see that every week.

TheOak 11-12-2013 02:48 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
So after a ton of Ingram threads we have come to the conclusion.

If the line doesn't block, he cant run. If the line blocks then he can run... Then again so could any RB.


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