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WhoDatQB 11-11-2013 02:28 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Not a MI lover by any means, and no matter what I will stand by and say the PT is a better RB. Period, end of statement.

What is being overlooked here is two things.
1. It seemed like the O line was blocking much better
2. They actually threw quite a few swing passes and other passes to Ingram.

Obviously 1 helps ALL of the RB's play better.
Part 2 helps Ingram. They all know he is not a speedster, and is not going to be people to the edge and they don't have to have someone shadowing him. That is why since teams "key" on Sproles more than MI or PT that Sproles will never have great rushing numbers. The D co-ordinators know or thought they know that shutting down Sproles and Graham will shut us down.

Ingram and PT should run better than Sproles. It's just that tonight it seemed like MI actually made a few people miss with some cuts and once the D had to be aware that he could be thrown the ball they didn't stack up on the run. PT has been doing this for years and better understands how he fits into the offense, maybe this was a light bulb moment for a few people, throw some screens or bubble passes, or make MI a outlet receiver and the teams can't tee off against the run.

dueceloose 11-11-2013 03:01 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Whether good or bad a mark ingram thread gets traffic.. no lie.

arsaint 11-11-2013 05:25 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 546704)
Repeat next week and I'll be a believer!


And when I say this, I don't mean he has to have 14 for 145. I would be tickled with 14 for 70 against the 49ers run D.

Danno 11-11-2013 05:27 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 547201)
And when I say this, I don't mean he has to have 14 for 145. I would be tickled with 14 for 70 against the 49ers run D.

SF gives up on average 3.9 per carry. If our RB's can meet or exceed that, I'm OK with their performance.

Danno 11-11-2013 05:54 PM

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BTW: I thought this was interesting.

For the 2013 season...

P.Thomas - 3.8 YPA (Ingram haters told us this sucks)
D.Sproles - 3.7 YPA (Ingram haters told us this sucks)
K.Robinson - 4.4 YPA (We were told this is freaking awesome!!!!!)

M.Ingram - 5.6 YPA


Just thought it was interesting.

blackangold 11-11-2013 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 547207)
BTW: I thought this was interesting.

For the 2013 season...

P.Thomas - 3.8 YPA (Ingram haters told us this sucks)**This does suck, thanks to that awful line
D.Sproles - 3.7 YPA (Ingram haters told us this sucks)**This does suck, thanks to that awful line
K.Robinson - 4.4 YPA (We were told this is freaking awesome!!!!!)

M.Ingram - 5.6 YPA** Great job by Ingram


Just thought it was interesting.

I am happy for Ingram, I thought he would run like that from day 1 this year.

Lets be honest, 1 good game in 3 years really doesn't keep that bust label away from him. Even Jamarcus Russel had a few good games. I hope Ingram Keeps running this way, even half of what he did last night would be great. Our running game rests on the shoulders of our O-line.

props to Ingram but ill still take Ivory over him any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Before the IRvory people post, just remember in Ingram's 3 season he has only finished 1 without injury.

Danno 11-11-2013 06:25 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 547212)
I am happy for Ingram, I thought he would run like that from day 1 this year.

Lets be honest, 1 good game in 3 years really doesn't keep that bust label away from him.

Stopped reading this uninformed diatribe right here.

Last two seasons
4.17 YPA (not bad at all)

Last 13 games (from when Kromer returned to O-line coach last year until now)
4.6 YPA (uhhh, pretty damn great, that is top 10 YPA in the NFL)

alleycat_126 11-11-2013 07:04 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 546728)
Lets temper expectations please. Dallas is the worst defense in the NFL and they also lost another 3 starters during the game. Ingram really didn't show up until the boys gave up.

No Im sorry..... The number of runs...and good ones is what hammered them unto submission

blackangold 11-11-2013 07:14 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 547213)
Stopped reading this uninformed diatribe right here.

Last two seasons
4.17 YPA (not bad at all)

Last 13 games (from when Kromer returned to O-line coach last year until now)
4.6 YPA (uhhh, pretty damn great, that is top 10 YPA in the NFL)

Please, 3.9 YPC last year and 3.9 YPC the year before that. Stats are stats lets not cherry pick to make turds smell like roses. Call it what it is Danno.

We always judge players on their most recent performances, that being said Ingram has a solid B for the season. If he keeps this type of running going, great, however that 1 game doesn't change the previous 2 years.

|Mitch| 11-11-2013 07:21 PM

Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 547213)
Last two seasons
4.17 YPA (not bad at all)

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 547221)
Please, 3.9 YPC last year and 3.9 YPC the year before that. Stats are stats lets not cherry pick to make turds smell like roses. Call it what it is Danno.

Seriously calling out Danno for 2.7 tenths of a yard?


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