2014 NFL Draft

halloween 65 · 03-18-2014, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I pointed him out last year as a surprise second rounder. A first i never saw coming. the issue with him is not so much dedication as the Gophers kept him on the field too much. they did not have the rotation. In the NFL i am sticking my neck out here i think he will thrive in a solid rotation.

Then again there maybe a grain of truth to desire or lack of. as a pass rushing DT, which the saints do not have, he may just be what the doctor order for the DL.

He is one of those player high risk high reward in the first. 50-59 as to whether or not the pick pays off. I could live with the pick but i would be holding my breath till i see what we got.

Hagen, I hold my breath on all of our picks to be honest. I believe this guy with the players we have now would give us the best DL in the NFL.

saintsfan1976 · 03-18-2014, 08:55 AM

Four things I'd like to see from rounds 1-4

A playmaker WR
Speedy OLB (rusher)
O Line depth (2yrs to starter)
Trade up!!

jeanpierre · 03-18-2014, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Four things I'd like to see from rounds 1-4

A playmaker WR
Speedy OLB (rusher)
O Line depth (2yrs to starter)
Trade up!!

'76, who do you want to trade up for?!?

hagan714 · 03-19-2014, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Four things I'd like to see from rounds 1-4

A playmaker WR
Speedy OLB (rusher)
O Line depth (2yrs to starter)
Trade up!!

hmmm trade up ??? what round and who are you targeting

hagan714 · 03-19-2014, 06:58 AM

Rob Ryan is one of my favorite targets to bust chops about, as everyone knows, but the one thing i have always given him credit for is LB talent. he always builds one the leagues best LB units no matter were he lands as a coach.

So seeing him checking out Christian Jones makes me happy

New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, who paid particular attention to Seminoles senior linebacker Christian Jones for most of the day, also was on hand, as was Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/joyner-...5581--nfl.html

Christian Jones ILB/OLB Florida ST. 6031 240 4.74

I can't skip past this kid. going into the season i he was a top of the second type of player. Now 3 round? 4th round? i am amazed. Florida St did not do this kid any favors moving to OLB/DE this year. He belongs AT ILB in a 34 all day long. If you ever got to watch him at ILB he just had a knack for putting players in the right spot and diagnosing plays. Then again being able to play OLB also is a plus. For a team looking for depth/starter at the LB position i can write the kid of. Jack of all trades is killing his stock it appears. he could end up being a third round gem for this defense.

The key factor i keep running across about the kid is this

He was lined up on slot receivers (shut down Sammy Watkins) and tight ends through out his career and blanketed them with ease. great pursuit and closing speed to cover running backs out of the flats. Excellent open field tackler

Big negative: over aggressiveness

Everyone has him pegged as a 43OLB which i can see but i think the ILB in a 34 is completely over looked. Rob Ryan seems to take notice. He may need a bit of coaching and settle in the LB rotation but the learning curve should not be too step.

lsutigerfan · 03-19-2014, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

'76, who do you want to trade up for?!?

Ill answer that, if we were to trade up id want Gilbert, Dennard or Mosely. Id perfer to trade back though.

saintsfan1976 · 03-19-2014, 10:02 AM

No, I'm talking about a mid round move similar to the one which landed us John Jenkins.

If we could jump back into the 3rd for Telvin Smith or Jarvis Landry

jeanpierre · 03-19-2014, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

No, I'm talking about a mid round move similar to the one which landed us John Jenkins.

If we could jump back into the 3rd for Telvin Smith or Jarvis Landry

Right, we'd probably have to trade our first for an early second to pick up a third round pick...

And I'd also prefer to trade back and have several picks in the mid round of this particular draft...

saintsfan1976 · 03-19-2014, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Right, we'd probably have to trade our first for an early second to pick up a third round pick...

And I'd also prefer to trade back and have several picks in the mid round of this particular draft...

We used two 4th rounders to get Jenkins.

WillSaints81 · 03-20-2014, 07:02 PM

I believe we may need to go OL here first. I think center is important because we need to be ready for the pass rushers we have next season. And then receiver.

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03-18-2014, 08:49 AM	#621
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by hagan714 I pointed him out last year as a surprise second rounder. A first i never saw coming. the issue with him is not so much dedication as the Gophers kept him on the field too much. they did not have the rotation. In the NFL i am sticking my neck out here i think he will thrive in a solid rotation. Then again there maybe a grain of truth to desire or lack of. as a pass rushing DT, which the saints do not have, he may just be what the doctor order for the DL. He is one of those player high risk high reward in the first. 50-59 as to whether or not the pick pays off. I could live with the pick but i would be holding my breath till i see what we got. Hagen, I hold my breath on all of our picks to be honest. I believe this guy with the players we have now would give us the best DL in the NFL. hagan714 likes this.

03-18-2014, 08:55 AM	#622
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Four things I'd like to see from rounds 1-4 A playmaker WR Speedy OLB (rusher) O Line depth (2yrs to starter) Trade up!! hagan714 likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Four things I'd like to see from rounds 1-4 A playmaker WR Speedy OLB (rusher) O Line depth (2yrs to starter) Trade up!! '76, who do you want to trade up for?!?

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03-19-2014, 06:58 AM	#625
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Rob Ryan is one of my favorite targets to bust chops about, as everyone knows, but the one thing i have always given him credit for is LB talent. he always builds one the leagues best LB units no matter were he lands as a coach. So seeing him checking out Christian Jones makes me happy New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, who paid particular attention to Seminoles senior linebacker Christian Jones for most of the day, also was on hand, as was Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/joyner-...5581--nfl.html Christian Jones ILB/OLB Florida ST. 6031 240 4.74 I can't skip past this kid. going into the season i he was a top of the second type of player. Now 3 round? 4th round? i am amazed. Florida St did not do this kid any favors moving to OLB/DE this year. He belongs AT ILB in a 34 all day long. If you ever got to watch him at ILB he just had a knack for putting players in the right spot and diagnosing plays. Then again being able to play OLB also is a plus. For a team looking for depth/starter at the LB position i can write the kid of. Jack of all trades is killing his stock it appears. he could end up being a third round gem for this defense. The key factor i keep running across about the kid is this He was lined up on slot receivers (shut down Sammy Watkins) and tight ends through out his career and blanketed them with ease. great pursuit and closing speed to cover running backs out of the flats. Excellent open field tackler Big negative: over aggressiveness Everyone has him pegged as a 43OLB which i can see but i think the ILB in a 34 is completely over looked. Rob Ryan seems to take notice. He may need a bit of coaching and settle in the LB rotation but the learning curve should not be too step. MarchingOn likes this.
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lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre '76, who do you want to trade up for?!? Ill answer that, if we were to trade up id want Gilbert, Dennard or Mosely. Id perfer to trade back though. MarchingOn likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2014 NFL Draft No, I'm talking about a mid round move similar to the one which landed us John Jenkins. If we could jump back into the 3rd for Telvin Smith or Jarvis Landry MarchingOn likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 No, I'm talking about a mid round move similar to the one which landed us John Jenkins. If we could jump back into the 3rd for Telvin Smith or Jarvis Landry Right, we'd probably have to trade our first for an early second to pick up a third round pick... And I'd also prefer to trade back and have several picks in the mid round of this particular draft... MarchingOn likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Right, we'd probably have to trade our first for an early second to pick up a third round pick... And I'd also prefer to trade back and have several picks in the mid round of this particular draft... We used two 4th rounders to get Jenkins.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: 2014 NFL Draft I believe we may need to go OL here first. I think center is important because we need to be ready for the pass rushers we have next season. And then receiver.

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