Sarik

O gosh.... Dont be that homer bud. Please. Ha

WillSaints81

I really do not want to use a first round pick on someone who can't start right away.

hagan714

The other side of the coin is clubs now this. so besides the cost for giving up a first round altogether. Now add in the option plain the cost is even more,

that an 800 pt pick cost would have been 1000 pts or so. But now 1400+ without blinking is the cost we are talking right out the gate.

I still love the idea of the more picks you have the better chance you are at getting starters

jeanpierre

Saints have history of finding hidden treasures | Saints | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, LA

jeanpierre

Re-grading the 2011 NFL Draft: The time I gave Christian Ponder an A - CBSSports.com

"New Orleans Saints

2011 grade: B-minus

The skinny: They landed defensive end Cameron Jordan with their first-round pick, 24th overall, and he has become a top player. That's value. They also traded back into the first round to get running back Mark Ingram, who hasn't lived up to expectations. Third-round pick Martez Wilson was let go last season and is now with Dallas. They got nothing else from this draft.

How I did: I liked the pick of Wilson in the third round. Oops. I questioned the move to trade back into the first round to get Ingram, and that has played out. My third-day gem was pass rusher Greg Romeus, who was coming off knee surgeries, but he didn't work out.

Re-grade: C-minus"

Yeah, it's Prisco, but that was not a fruitful draft...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

lee909

Not sure this article will post correctly from phone. If not worth a look on bleacher report


Zach Mettenberger Among NFL Prospects Who Reportedly Failed Combine Drug Test
USA Today
May 5, 2014

Former LSU quarterback Zach Mettenberger and former Florida State defensive tackle Timmy Jernigan were among a group of 10 players who reportedly failed their drug tests at the NFL Scouting Combine in February.*****

Fox Sports' Jay Glazer, with assistance from a report by ProFootballTalk.com's Mike Florio, has the news:*

The top prospect on the list was*Florida State*defensive tackle*Timmy Jernigan, who is projected as a mid first-round selection. Another big name was Louisiana State quarterback*Zach Mettenberger. ProFootballTalk.com first reported that Mettenberger tested positive for having a diluted urine sample, which would count as a failed test under the NFL's drug program.

Ian Rapoport of NFL.com later confirmed the report on Jernigan and Glazer added more details on his failed test:



Other players on the list include LSU defensive tackle Anthony Johnson, Miami tackle Seantrel Henderson and Florida State linebackers Telvin Smith and Christian Jones.*

Jernigan showed flashes of both*dominance*and inconsistency while recording 63 tackles and 4.5 sacks for the Seminoles last season, but he was downright dominant against Auburn in the national championship, creating consistent disruption on the interior.*

The 6'2", 299-pound defensive tackle has always had the talent, but that performance boosted his stock into first-round territory. Many still aren't sold, however, and Rotoworld's Josh Norris recently said he wasn't a first-rounder:*


Adding a red flag may just solidify that fact.*

As for Mettenberger, his physical therapist, via Florio, is claiming that his diluted sample was the result of the rehabilitation process for his torn ACL:

(Mettenberger) was experiencing frequent muscle cramping during the day as well as at night while trying to sleep. (He was advised to drink) as much as 1 to 1.5 gallons of of water per day, to increase his consumption of foods high in potassium, and to increase his sodium intake.

"The kid didn't do anything wrong," agent Joe Linta added, via CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora. "He was doing what the doctor told him to do."

According to Florio, a diluted sample is still treated as a positive sample.

Although Mettenberger is coming off a serious injury, he thrived in Cam Cameron's NFL system as a senior and*continued to improve his stock during April's pro day. Still, Bleacher Report's Will Carroll argued that this development combined with his injury should keep him out of the first-round discussion:*


A second- or third-round choice is most likely for Mettenberger.*

CBS Sports lists Smith as another potential second-round pick and Johnson as a fourth-round prospect, while there's a chance Jones and Henderson won't hear their names called.*

A failed drug test isn't going to make or break a career, but it's hardly a red flag that NFL teams want to see just three days prior to the start of the draft. It's often little things like this that sway teams on the fence one way or the other.*

It remains to be seen how this news will impact the players involved and the interested teams around the league on draft day. After a long pre-draft evaluation process, we won't have to wait long to find out.*

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

jeanpierre

I'm hardly a Mettenberger fan, but a diligent patient 'over-hydrating' during rehabilitation is very common...

There's got to be a more conclusive process to determine substance abuse - which I find inexcusable when giving the gift and privilege of playing in the NFL...

lee909

Wasn't so much Mettenberger I was interested in but the two Florida State LB's. It doesn't say what there reason for failure. That test could be the final nail in Henderson's hopes. Huge talent but no mentality to work it seems

jeanpierre

DT Timmy Jernigan was also on list for "diluted sample"...

hagan714

There were more red-flagged drug tests at the 2014 NFL Scouting Combine than any in recent years.
FOX Sports has learned that more than 10 players were identified to NFL teams as either testing positive for drugs or having a diluted sample in February.
The top prospect on the list was Florida State defensive tackle Timmy Jernigan, who is projected as a mid first-round selection. Jernigan tested positive for a diluted urine sample, FOX Sports has learned. Another big name was Louisiana State quarterback Zach Mettenberger. ProFootballTalk.com first reported that Mettenberger tested positive for having a diluted urine sample, which would count as a failed test under the NFL'€™s drug program.
Among the other notable players who were listed to NFL teams as having failed Combine drug tests in February were LSU defensive tackle Anthony Johnson, University of Miami tackle Seantrel Henderson, and Florida State linebackers Telvin Smith and Christian Jones.


blah blah blah


Smith'€™s agent Adisa Bakari declined comment to FOX Sports. In a written statement to FOX Sports, Johnson'€™s agent Jeff Guerriero said, "We have not been contacted nor has the player. No NFL team has commented on the alleged incident to us. We have no knowledge of the alleged incident."
Jones'€™ agent Graylan Crain didn'€™t respond to a FOX Sports inquiry seeking comment.
ESPN first reported Monday that Henderson tested positive for marijuana. Henderson has previously admitted to smoking pot while at Miami.


Glazer: Mettenberger, Jernigan failed drug tests at Combine | FOX Sports on MSN

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