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Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Utah, it's not a question of his inherent ability - it's the fact that when he's failed to overcome in big games, i.e. Seattle, the Saints lose... He really needs to own guys like Sherman and ...

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Old 06-11-2014, 08:16 AM   #1
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints

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Utah, it's not a question of his inherent ability - it's the fact that when he's failed to overcome in big games, i.e. Seattle, the Saints lose...

He really needs to own guys like Sherman and Talib in THEIR house as well as his own...
In the regular season game against Seattle, Graham was the only Saint that scored but it's his fault the Saints lost?

Everybody gets shut down sometime. When you lead the league in touchdowns, you're not getting shut down often?
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints

Jimmy Graham is the new Aaron Brooks at B&G. A good player that many argue is not that great and that the Saints would be better without him.

To be clear, the Saints actually were better without Brooks in 2006 when he was replaced by a future Hall of Famer. But... I'd better stop there before I add too much fuel to this fire.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:14 AM   #3
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Jimmy Graham is the new Aaron Brooks at B&G. A good player that many argue is not that great and that the Saints would be better without him.

To be clear, the Saints actually were better without Brooks in 2006 when he was replaced by a future Hall of Famer. But... I'd better stop there before I add too much fuel to this fire.
There is no doubt the man is a beast. The point I raise is don't over pay. We won without him before we can do it again.
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints

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There is no doubt the man is a beast. The point I raise is don't over pay. We won without him before we can do it again.
He will not be overpaid. As one of the top offensive threats in the game he is a bargain at $11 per year, which can easily be structured in a way to open up an additional $3-$4M in cap space for 2014.

Can the Saints win without him? Sure they can, but they are undoubtedly better with him. I want the taste of another Super Bowl win and Graham gives us a far better chance to achieve that goal.
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In the regular season game against Seattle, Graham was the only Saint that scored but it's his fault the Saints lost?

Everybody gets shut down sometime. When you lead the league in touchdowns, you're not getting shut down often?

I'm just saying that he's struggled, been shutdown against the elite cornerbacks; when we needed him to get crucial first downs, he's been on the short end of coming down on the ball despite having superior size and athleticism...

Look, I've been a Graham fan since I saw him his first training camp (went so homer that I dropped Dallas Clark in Fantasy Keeper for Graham before his rookie campaign); but when you want elite money, you've got to come down with the ball against the elite...

Do I want to get rid of Graham - H**L, Neaux! But his success is as much about the table that is set in New Orleans than anything and I find the argument for more money like a top five WR has many holes in it...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post

I'm just saying that he's struggled, been shutdown against the elite cornerbacks; when we needed him to get crucial first downs, he's been on the short end of coming down on the ball despite having superior size and athleticism...

Look, I've been a Graham fan since I saw him his first training camp (went so homer that I dropped Dallas Clark in Fantasy Keeper for Graham before his rookie campaign); but when you want elite money, you've got to come down with the ball against the elite...

Do I want to get rid of Graham - H**L, Neaux! But his success is as much about the table that is set in New Orleans than anything and I find the argument for more money like a top five WR has many holes in it...
The top 5 WR's get shut down by Talib and Sherman.
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