Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-30-2004, 05:29 PM

The Saints are in an interesting pickle. This is a followup to my PLAYOFFS!!! post from last week.

As much as they try, they are still in it. Everyone around them in the race for the last wildcard spot (sans two) lost last week: Detroit, TB, St. Louis, Chicago, Arizona, and the Giants. The two winners, Carolina and Dallas, have pulled themselves back into it.. All in all there are two 5-6 teams and five 4-7 teams still in the race.

Next week Chicago,TB and Dallas have tough games with Minnesota, Atlanta and Seattle respectively. There is direct head to head between the Saints and the Panthers, and the Lions and the Cards. Finally the Giants and the Rams, the co-leaders in the race, both have winnable games with Washington and San Francisco respectively.

So the question. Do the Saints actually do what all teams try to do and win games? Or do we throttle back, play the rookies and the second/third stringers, and set up for a top 10 pick. Note that there are 5 teams with 3 wins or less at the current time.

The NFC is ultra weak. After Philly, Atlanta, and GB no one seems to have a consistent program.

So the question: shoot for the last playoff spot, and face GB in Lambeau in January, or try to stay in that 5-10 draft pick slot?

You make the call.

SFIAH

NOLAmite · 11-30-2004, 05:40 PM

It seems to me that alot of saints players and definitly coaching staff will be looking for a new job come the end of the season... that being said, I would think it\'s in all of their collective interests to play hard and win as many games as possible...
the rest of the season is essentially a job interview...
few people like a loser, but nobody likes a quiter...

saintswhodi · 11-30-2004, 05:59 PM

Why is this even a question? If we were on Wall Street they would be screaming SELL SELL SELL!!! Tank it. What\'s the point of trying to make the playoffs and losing out to Tampa or Carolina in the final game? To pick 17th again? No way. We have a golden opportunity that we blew the last time on Sullivan to draft in the top 10. The Saints, as mediocre as they are, rarely get the chance without selling their soul(see Ricky Williams). You think all those high draft picks have helped San Diego? This is what we need. Haslett is gone and we get a stud int he draft, provided a new regime is not as inept at draftign as this one was.

whodatsaintsfan26 · 11-30-2004, 07:12 PM

Close up shop and aim for Derrick Johnson. This team isnt making the playoffs, so why not?

blackwidows · 11-30-2004, 07:26 PM

plaoffs not possible. The Saints have not been able to post a 6 game winniong streak since 2000. Since than with Brooks at the helm the team has only been able to muster 2 game winning streaks followed bye a loss. Except in 2002 when they one 3 games in a row twice. I just hope we don\'t get sweeped bye Tampa Bay. Tampa has not sweeped the Saints yet I would like to see this streak continue.

Euphoria · 11-30-2004, 07:41 PM

Where is the love for the game? You play to win...you don\'t play to lose. If it was a matter of one game to get the number one pick I can understand but not now... we play to win. This is also a great oppitunity for players to at least fight for a job next year. Moving up a few spots in the draft isn\'t going to help us all that much at all anyways.

...a shot at the playoffs or not you play to win.

[Edited on 1/12/2004 by Euphoria]

saintswhodi · 11-30-2004, 08:21 PM

Moving up a few spots in the draft isn\'t going to help us all that much at all anyways

What?? A few spots??? We lose out, we pick top 5. That is Derrick Johnson or Antrell Rolle cause Miami is not taking D and San Fran will prob take Leinart. These are franchise players. I would rather one be in a Saints jersey than anywhere else. A few spots is the difference in getting a franchise player and guessing again.

JKool · 11-30-2004, 08:38 PM

We got Sullivan at 6.

Euphoria · 11-30-2004, 09:24 PM

LMAO... JKOOL you couln\'t have chosen better words to put this debate to an end. Even if you draft number one who\'s to say you don\'t end up with a Ryan Leaf?

shadowdrinker_x · 11-30-2004, 10:34 PM

Oh...You must be under the Impression that we still have a choice...

11-30-2004, 05:29 PM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft The Saints are in an interesting pickle. This is a followup to my PLAYOFFS!!! post from last week. As much as they try, they are still in it. Everyone around them in the race for the last wildcard spot (sans two) lost last week: Detroit, TB, St. Louis, Chicago, Arizona, and the Giants. The two winners, Carolina and Dallas, have pulled themselves back into it.. All in all there are two 5-6 teams and five 4-7 teams still in the race. Next week Chicago,TB and Dallas have tough games with Minnesota, Atlanta and Seattle respectively. There is direct head to head between the Saints and the Panthers, and the Lions and the Cards. Finally the Giants and the Rams, the co-leaders in the race, both have winnable games with Washington and San Francisco respectively. So the question. Do the Saints actually do what all teams try to do and win games? Or do we throttle back, play the rookies and the second/third stringers, and set up for a top 10 pick. Note that there are 5 teams with 3 wins or less at the current time. The NFC is ultra weak. After Philly, Atlanta, and GB no one seems to have a consistent program. So the question: shoot for the last playoff spot, and face GB in Lambeau in January, or try to stay in that 5-10 draft pick slot? You make the call. SFIAH

11-30-2004, 05:40 PM	#2
NOLAmite Registered Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 70	Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft It seems to me that alot of saints players and definitly coaching staff will be looking for a new job come the end of the season... that being said, I would think it\'s in all of their collective interests to play hard and win as many games as possible... the rest of the season is essentially a job interview... few people like a loser, but nobody likes a quiter...
NOLAmite Registered Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 70

11-30-2004, 05:59 PM	#3
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft Why is this even a question? If we were on Wall Street they would be screaming SELL SELL SELL!!! Tank it. What\'s the point of trying to make the playoffs and losing out to Tampa or Carolina in the final game? To pick 17th again? No way. We have a golden opportunity that we blew the last time on Sullivan to draft in the top 10. The Saints, as mediocre as they are, rarely get the chance without selling their soul(see Ricky Williams). You think all those high draft picks have helped San Diego? This is what we need. Haslett is gone and we get a stud int he draft, provided a new regime is not as inept at draftign as this one was.

11-30-2004, 07:12 PM	#4
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft Close up shop and aim for Derrick Johnson. This team isnt making the playoffs, so why not?

11-30-2004, 07:26 PM	#5
blackwidows 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 245	Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft plaoffs not possible. The Saints have not been able to post a 6 game winniong streak since 2000. Since than with Brooks at the helm the team has only been able to muster 2 game winning streaks followed bye a loss. Except in 2002 when they one 3 games in a row twice. I just hope we don\'t get sweeped bye Tampa Bay. Tampa has not sweeped the Saints yet I would like to see this streak continue.
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11-30-2004, 07:41 PM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft Where is the love for the game? You play to win...you don\'t play to lose. If it was a matter of one game to get the number one pick I can understand but not now... we play to win. This is also a great oppitunity for players to at least fight for a job next year. Moving up a few spots in the draft isn\'t going to help us all that much at all anyways. ...a shot at the playoffs or not you play to win. [Edited on 1/12/2004 by Euphoria]

11-30-2004, 08:21 PM	#7
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft Moving up a few spots in the draft isn\'t going to help us all that much at all anyways What?? A few spots??? We lose out, we pick top 5. That is Derrick Johnson or Antrell Rolle cause Miami is not taking D and San Fran will prob take Leinart. These are franchise players. I would rather one be in a Saints jersey than anywhere else. A few spots is the difference in getting a franchise player and guessing again.

11-30-2004, 08:38 PM	#8
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft We got Sullivan at 6.

11-30-2004, 09:24 PM	#9
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft LMAO... JKOOL you couln\'t have chosen better words to put this debate to an end. Even if you draft number one who\'s to say you don\'t end up with a Ryan Leaf?

11-30-2004, 10:34 PM	#10
shadowdrinker_x Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 218	Question of the week: Strive for playoffs or fold for draft Oh...You must be under the Impression that we still have a choice...