Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia

rezburna · 10-06-2014, 11:27 PM

Every team who's QB has thrown 6 picks so far is struggling except for Andrew Luck, and they were having problems until recently when he finally cleaned up the picks.

WHODATINCA · 10-06-2014, 11:32 PM

This team is struggling -- but percentage wise I'd give maybe 10-15% of the blame to the INTs. And, considering that INTs are a joint effort between the O-Line and the QB -- that hangs at most 7.5% of the blame on Drew.

There is so much at play here. How money is spent, how the last year went, coaching, play-calling, injuries, etc. I mean WOW I cannot believe the complaining.

I have one question for you -- which QB would you trade Drew for right now?

hagan714 · 10-06-2014, 11:37 PM

Drew has always had at least two games a year were you just want to take him by the head and bang it upside the Gatorade bucket.

At times he tries to do to much. Other times you just have no clue.

most of the time his head on straight and all is good. short to mid range passing are on and the oL is doing it's job. which was not the case sunday.

anyone ready to admit it will take a while to develop our center? I am talking 2 maybe 3 years? till then we will never survive against super bowl caliber DT.

Audiotom · 10-06-2014, 11:43 PM

I would like to see Drew hitting a streaking Cooks 20 yards down the field in perfect stride just once

Barry from MS · 10-06-2014, 11:43 PM

Cutler's Bears: 2-3
Ryan's Clowns: 2-3
Brees' Saints: 2-3

Maybe coincidence, but giving the other team more opportunities to have the ball and score is not a winning formula, especially since our defense struggles to get turnovers.

And Brees' 2014 picks have been inopportune...2 returned for TDs (@ Cle & vs TB), 1 in the end zone (@ ATL), 1 on our side of the field (vs TB).

The O-Line, the RB's for blitz pick-up, and his receivers can take some of the blame...but you have to look at the man pulling the trigger. Brees does not get a pass on blame for the decisions he's made so far.

Barry from MS · 10-06-2014, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

I have one question for you -- which QB would you trade Drew for right now?

Loaded question. No other QB in the NFL knows this offensive system and offensive personnel better than Brees.

rezburna · 10-06-2014, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

This team is struggling -- but percentage wise I'd give maybe 10-15% of the blame to the INTs. And, considering that INTs are a joint effort between the O-Line and the QB -- that hangs at most 7.5% of the blame on Drew.

There is so much at play here. How money is spent, how the last year went, coaching, play-calling, injuries, etc. I mean WOW I cannot believe the complaining.

I have one question for you -- which QB would you trade Drew for right now?

Luck or Rodgers. That's about it.

WHODATINCA · 10-06-2014, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Loaded question. No other QB in the NFL knows this offensive system and offensive personnel better than Brees.

There have already been big substitutions this year. Yesterday, Vick for Smith. Bridgewater for Cassel. What's his name for Palmer. Many, many others. Drew has done many things well -- one is -- he's stayed out of the hospital.

QBs have to fill in for each other all the time. That's why they get paid the big bucks. So, Barry, who do you want?

WHODATINCA · 10-06-2014, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Luck or Rodgers. That's about it.

Luck has thrown just as many INTs as Brees this year, soooooo......

And, we can't have Rodgers. Who else?

Here's what I'm doing about the situation:

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

Biggest worries:

1. When do we get MI back?
2. Is KL ok?
3. How can we protect Drew better?
4. How long will JG be out?
5. Will we get a pass rush this season?
6. Will our secondary hold up?
7. Will our receivers remember how to catch the ball?

Not necessarily in that order.

Jack Vegas · 10-07-2014, 12:14 AM

the point of comparison is always 2009 Drew Brees. Most every other year - including record-setting 2011 - he looked more like the guy who misses short on half his deep passes and throws head-shaking dumb picks every once in a while.

2009 Drew Brees was something to behold though. That is the Drew we will always remember.

10-06-2014, 11:27 PM	#21
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia Every team who's QB has thrown 6 picks so far is struggling except for Andrew Luck, and they were having problems until recently when he finally cleaned up the picks.

10-06-2014, 11:32 PM	#22
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia This team is struggling -- but percentage wise I'd give maybe 10-15% of the blame to the INTs. And, considering that INTs are a joint effort between the O-Line and the QB -- that hangs at most 7.5% of the blame on Drew. There is so much at play here. How money is spent, how the last year went, coaching, play-calling, injuries, etc. I mean WOW I cannot believe the complaining. I have one question for you -- which QB would you trade Drew for right now?

10-06-2014, 11:37 PM	#23
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia Drew has always had at least two games a year were you just want to take him by the head and bang it upside the Gatorade bucket. At times he tries to do to much. Other times you just have no clue. most of the time his head on straight and all is good. short to mid range passing are on and the oL is doing it's job. which was not the case sunday. anyone ready to admit it will take a while to develop our center? I am talking 2 maybe 3 years? till then we will never survive against super bowl caliber DT.
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10-06-2014, 11:43 PM	#24
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia I would like to see Drew hitting a streaking Cooks 20 yards down the field in perfect stride just once hagan714, leilung and SaintsBro like this.

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia Cutler's Bears: 2-3 Ryan's Clowns: 2-3 Brees' Saints: 2-3 Maybe coincidence, but giving the other team more opportunities to have the ball and score is not a winning formula, especially since our defense struggles to get turnovers. And Brees' 2014 picks have been inopportune...2 returned for TDs (@ Cle & vs TB), 1 in the end zone (@ ATL), 1 on our side of the field (vs TB). The O-Line, the RB's for blitz pick-up, and his receivers can take some of the blame...but you have to look at the man pulling the trigger. Brees does not get a pass on blame for the decisions he's made so far. hagan714 likes this.
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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia Originally Posted by WHODATINCA I have one question for you -- which QB would you trade Drew for right now? Loaded question. No other QB in the NFL knows this offensive system and offensive personnel better than Brees.

10-06-2014, 11:47 PM	#27
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia Originally Posted by WHODATINCA This team is struggling -- but percentage wise I'd give maybe 10-15% of the blame to the INTs. And, considering that INTs are a joint effort between the O-Line and the QB -- that hangs at most 7.5% of the blame on Drew. There is so much at play here. How money is spent, how the last year went, coaching, play-calling, injuries, etc. I mean WOW I cannot believe the complaining. I have one question for you -- which QB would you trade Drew for right now? Luck or Rodgers. That's about it.

10-06-2014, 11:49 PM	#28
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia Originally Posted by Barry from MS Loaded question. No other QB in the NFL knows this offensive system and offensive personnel better than Brees. There have already been big substitutions this year. Yesterday, Vick for Smith. Bridgewater for Cassel. What's his name for Palmer. Many, many others. Drew has done many things well -- one is -- he's stayed out of the hospital. QBs have to fill in for each other all the time. That's why they get paid the big bucks. So, Barry, who do you want?

10-06-2014, 11:51 PM	#29
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia Originally Posted by rezburna Luck or Rodgers. That's about it. Luck has thrown just as many INTs as Brees this year, soooooo...... And, we can't have Rodgers. Who else? Here's what I'm doing about the situation: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. Biggest worries: 1. When do we get MI back? 2. Is KL ok? 3. How can we protect Drew better? 4. How long will JG be out? 5. Will we get a pass rush this season? 6. Will our secondary hold up? 7. Will our receivers remember how to catch the ball? Not necessarily in that order.
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10-07-2014, 12:14 AM	#30
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia the point of comparison is always 2009 Drew Brees. Most every other year - including record-setting 2011 - he looked more like the guy who misses short on half his deep passes and throws head-shaking dumb picks every once in a while. 2009 Drew Brees was something to behold though. That is the Drew we will always remember.
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