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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by teddybarexxx mitch its not the 170 yards i'm talking about. its the 108's and 129's i'm talking about. i'm saying we as a team shouldnt be held to 108 and 129 yards if you have 3, count ...
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10-27-2014, 05:07 PM | #31 |
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Dude, take a second and then take one good deep breath. No one here is disagreeing with you that the saints should "CONTINUE" to run the ball. They have been doing that all year but you're making it seem like they have some how just committed to the run because you told them to lol. Dallas has the best rush offense in the league and they are averaging 159 yards/game. We're averaging 133 yards/game. That's not bad. Unless the NFL outlaws passing nobody is going to be averaging 200+ yards a game regardless of how good your backs are because there are teams in the league that can actually play good rush defense. Having a balanced is attack is important but somehow saying we should be averaging 200+ yards a game is just silly.
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10-27-2014, 05:49 PM | #32 |
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People can say "Oh we played against the second to worst run defense in the NFL"
That still doesn't change the fact that Ingram has a 5.7 YPC for the season so far Ingram is the type of runner that will wear a defense down, he will get 5 or 6 yards here and there and then he'll explode for a 30 yard gain There is no perfect formula for winning in the NFL, nothing that says if you run the ball you'll win, the biggest thing our offense did was play mistake free, that's when we are most dangerous |
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10-27-2014, 06:11 PM | #33 |
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Mark Ingram was he best football player in that entire draft , problem is we stashed him on the sideline with Sproles , Ivory , Thomas , Cadet , all taking snaps away from him. Add the fact that we pass 45+ times a game , and his history with being knicked up and you get what we got.
People screamed bust from the top of the Superdome , not even giving the kid his fair due. I want to keep him , problem is he's probably performing this way because he know this is the only way the salvage his reputation in hopes to sign somewhere else because lord knows between Byrd Graham Brees and Jordan's upcoming date for an extension we probably won't have the resources to sign him to an effective deal. His career would be unbelievable in Seattle where they I bet you are licking their chops on him with their lynch situation going sour. We have to restructure somewhere or cut a back to make room for him. He not only wants the contract , he wants the carries. Can we give that to him ? |
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10-27-2014, 06:46 PM | #34 |
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Actually, we've shown you're wrong on a lot of the things you've posted. You just say "I don't do stats" as if that makes the argument invalid.
Also, you're once again saying "I told you so" today because Mark Ingram ran for over 170 yards last night. But you're ignoring the fact that Drew had his best game of the season, the DLine got better pressure than they have all season and we got 3 turnovers. So, the truth of the matter is, the Saints had a great all around game yesterday. Which is what most of us have been trying to tell you the team needed for weeks now. Not just "run run run". Several times you've used the Cowboys as an example of a team that runs the ball "effectively" ( I don't know why you keep putting that in quotes) but then ignore the fact that half the best running teams don't have winning records. You said Super Bowl teams have successful running games but then ignore the truth that over the last 20 years, half of them don't actually have good running games. One even had the worst running game in the league and still won the Super Bowl. Personally, I stopped taking you seriously when you said many posters on here didn't know what a fullback was and that you were going to give us a lesson. Your passion for the Saints is respectable but your condescension and closed mindedness aren't going to win you any friends. |
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What? You can't really say that with a straight face? JJ Watt, AJ Green, Patrick Peterson, Von Miller, Tyron Smith, etc? That was a deep and really really good draft. Now Ingram throughout his career here has had an unfair shake, but that wasn't just on the Saints. He had trouble reading blocks and it was evident the game was too fast for him when he made the initial transition. He didn't get the snaps because he wasn't ready for them and the players you mentioned were either all on par with him or better. You really think they wanted to trade up into the first round and just sit the former Heisman trophy winner? You can't just expect players to make the jump and be the exact same player they were in college. He wasn't prepared. You could tell in the preseason he was a completely different player this year. He worked harder, studied harder, focused harder, and now both parties are reaping the benefits. If we decided to finally have a bell cow back, I would ove for us to retain him somehow. It looks like he's over that college to pro transition curve and ready to take the bull by the horns. |
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Good thing is, RB position is one of the lowest paid in the NFL (recent trend) .There are kickers with higher salary than some very good RBs. 5 year option was just too much. If Ingram keeps playing like this and stays healthy, he can expect solid offer from Loomis.
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If he would've been carrying the ball from the start he'd be Adrian Peterson by now. He's just as good as any body at his best |
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lol There are no RBs in the NFL with that kind of talent. Not even close. |
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Ingram's performance last night was a thing of beauty. So proud of him and this team, especially the O-Line and those involved in pass protection. Now, if they can just please remember how to do this versus CAR. And, the D can show up again -- we will be golden Thursday night.
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