Ingram - Saints Relationship

dam1953 · 10-30-2014, 03:12 PM

A thought just occurred to me. Is there a correlation between PT's and KR's injuries and the offense we saw Sunday night. Yes, the line was opening holes. Yes, Ingram was hitting the hole, avoiding tackles and flat running over the GB D.

All of that said, could it be with Ingram on the field for more snaps, the Saints offense is just less predictable? When combined with Ingram's performance, opponents are forced to respect the run on passing downs and the pass on run downs. Play action holds line backers, opening up middle routes and buying a few more seconds for Brees to hit the deep route.

The opposition no longer calls the D based upon the offensive package because the package doesn't change as much.

Beastmode · 10-30-2014, 04:10 PM

Everybody runs over the GB D including us. MI must have ran 90% of those right up the gut, about as predictable as it could get. I here what you're saying but against a good D, it will be difficult to run no matter what we do.

blackangold · 10-30-2014, 04:45 PM

I completely agree with your assertion.

Having a RBBC system can be good if the RBs are similar, however our RBs are not similar at all. Ingram is well rounded but the defense can tell our general play calls by who is in the backfield. How do i know this? Because I can guess our play calls by looking at who is our RB, and I don't get paid to watch game tape.

Is GB bad at stopping the run? Yes, but our play-calling was as unpredictable as it has been for the last few years.

I am no fan of the RBBC, and we have only recently started to do it. You could say it started with Deuce and Reggie but even then Deuce was the main guy.

Halo · 10-30-2014, 05:23 PM

Ingram - Saints Relationship

They're dating.

dam1953 · 10-30-2014, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

They're dating.

Yes. It's been one of those love - hate affairs from several years.

Utah_Saint · 10-30-2014, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

They're dating.

It's complicated

alleycat_126 · 10-31-2014, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

They're dating.

And you know what, why is dating a bad thing. When your dating as a guy... you do every thing you can to impress your mate into marriage... and that is exactly what Ingram is doing.

- STAYING HEALTHY ( Still and ongoing issue ) Hand injury... now shoulder troubles....

- being more decisive
- not being tackled as much by the first tackler
- holding on to the ball
- finishing runs

All the things people like me held him accountable for when we were critical of him.

dam1953 · 10-31-2014, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

And you know what, why is dating a bad thing. When your dating as a guy... you do every thing you can to impress your mate into marriage... and that is exactly what Ingram is doing.

- STAYING HEALTHY ( Still and ongoing issue ) Hand injury... now shoulder troubles....

- being more decisive
- not being tackled as much by the first tackler
- holding on to the ball
- finishing runs

All the things people like me held him accountable for when we were critical of him.

Don't forget picking up blitzes. I think that this was one reason why he wasn't getting on the field in passing situations. He has done a reasonably good job in that area the last two games.

SaintFanQ · 10-30-2014, 05:50 PM

I just hope MI can rack up another 200 yards tonight and get a couple of TD's to go with those yards.

We need to get this losing road game monkey off our backs and get a good, solid win. We will be top of the NFC South if we do, what more incentive does this team need than that!!!!

GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!

nutria · 10-31-2014, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanQ

I just hope MI can rack up another 200 yards tonight and get a couple of TD's to go with those yards.

We need to get this losing road game monkey off our backs and get a good, solid win. We will be top of the NFC South if we do, what more incentive does this team need than that!!!!

GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-30-2014, 03:12 PM	#1
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Ingram - Saints Relationship A thought just occurred to me. Is there a correlation between PT's and KR's injuries and the offense we saw Sunday night. Yes, the line was opening holes. Yes, Ingram was hitting the hole, avoiding tackles and flat running over the GB D. All of that said, could it be with Ingram on the field for more snaps, the Saints offense is just less predictable? When combined with Ingram's performance, opponents are forced to respect the run on passing downs and the pass on run downs. Play action holds line backers, opening up middle routes and buying a few more seconds for Brees to hit the deep route. The opposition no longer calls the D based upon the offensive package because the package doesn't change as much.
	”It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.” Charles Darwin

10-30-2014, 04:10 PM	#2
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Ingram - Saints Relationship Everybody runs over the GB D including us. MI must have ran 90% of those right up the gut, about as predictable as it could get. I here what you're saying but against a good D, it will be difficult to run no matter what we do.
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10-30-2014, 04:45 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Ingram - Saints Relationship I completely agree with your assertion. Having a RBBC system can be good if the RBs are similar, however our RBs are not similar at all. Ingram is well rounded but the defense can tell our general play calls by who is in the backfield. How do i know this? Because I can guess our play calls by looking at who is our RB, and I don't get paid to watch game tape. Is GB bad at stopping the run? Yes, but our play-calling was as unpredictable as it has been for the last few years. I am no fan of the RBBC, and we have only recently started to do it. You could say it started with Deuce and Reggie but even then Deuce was the main guy.

10-30-2014, 05:23 PM	#4
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,860 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Ingram - Saints Relationship Ingram - Saints Relationship They're dating. hagan714, SaintFanQ and Seer1 like this.

10-30-2014, 06:09 PM	#5
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Ingram - Saints Relationship Originally Posted by Halo They're dating. Yes. It's been one of those love - hate affairs from several years. Halo likes this.

10-30-2014, 06:21 PM	#6
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Ingram - Saints Relationship Originally Posted by Halo They're dating. It's complicated Halo, hagan714 and WhoDat2301 like this.

10-31-2014, 05:18 AM	#7
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Ingram - Saints Relationship Originally Posted by Halo They're dating. And you know what, why is dating a bad thing. When your dating as a guy... you do every thing you can to impress your mate into marriage... and that is exactly what Ingram is doing. - STAYING HEALTHY ( Still and ongoing issue ) Hand injury... now shoulder troubles.... - being more decisive - not being tackled as much by the first tackler - holding on to the ball - finishing runs All the things people like me held him accountable for when we were critical of him. hagan714 likes this.

10-31-2014, 01:07 PM	#8
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Ingram - Saints Relationship Originally Posted by alleycat_126 And you know what, why is dating a bad thing. When your dating as a guy... you do every thing you can to impress your mate into marriage... and that is exactly what Ingram is doing. - STAYING HEALTHY ( Still and ongoing issue ) Hand injury... now shoulder troubles.... - being more decisive - not being tackled as much by the first tackler - holding on to the ball - finishing runs All the things people like me held him accountable for when we were critical of him. Don't forget picking up blitzes. I think that this was one reason why he wasn't getting on the field in passing situations. He has done a reasonably good job in that area the last two games.

10-30-2014, 05:50 PM	#9
SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 801	Re: Ingram - Saints Relationship I just hope MI can rack up another 200 yards tonight and get a couple of TD's to go with those yards. We need to get this losing road game monkey off our backs and get a good, solid win. We will be top of the NFC South if we do, what more incentive does this team need than that!!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!

10-31-2014, 06:57 AM	#10
nutria Sac-A-Lait Join Date: May 2006 Location: Prairieville, LA Posts: 262	Re: Ingram - Saints Relationship Originally Posted by SaintFanQ I just hope MI can rack up another 200 yards tonight and get a couple of TD's to go with those yards. We need to get this losing road game monkey off our backs and get a good, solid win. We will be top of the NFC South if we do, what more incentive does this team need than that!!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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