dam1953

A thought just occurred to me. Is there a correlation between PT's and KR's injuries and the offense we saw Sunday night. Yes, the line was opening holes. Yes, Ingram was hitting the hole, avoiding tackles and flat running over the GB D.

All of that said, could it be with Ingram on the field for more snaps, the Saints offense is just less predictable? When combined with Ingram's performance, opponents are forced to respect the run on passing downs and the pass on run downs. Play action holds line backers, opening up middle routes and buying a few more seconds for Brees to hit the deep route.

The opposition no longer calls the D based upon the offensive package because the package doesn't change as much.

”It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.” Charles Darwin

Beastmode

Everybody runs over the GB D including us. MI must have ran 90% of those right up the gut, about as predictable as it could get. I here what you're saying but against a good D, it will be difficult to run no matter what we do.

blackangold

I completely agree with your assertion.

Having a RBBC system can be good if the RBs are similar, however our RBs are not similar at all. Ingram is well rounded but the defense can tell our general play calls by who is in the backfield. How do i know this? Because I can guess our play calls by looking at who is our RB, and I don't get paid to watch game tape.

Is GB bad at stopping the run? Yes, but our play-calling was as unpredictable as it has been for the last few years.

I am no fan of the RBBC, and we have only recently started to do it. You could say it started with Deuce and Reggie but even then Deuce was the main guy.

Halo

They're dating.

SaintFanQ

I just hope MI can rack up another 200 yards tonight and get a couple of TD's to go with those yards.

We need to get this losing road game monkey off our backs and get a good, solid win. We will be top of the NFC South if we do, what more incentive does this team need than that!!!!

GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!

dam1953

Yes. It's been one of those love - hate affairs from several years.

Utah_Saint

It's complicated

Jack Vegas

Disagree with the assertion that our running backs are all different. They're not that different, they've just been pigeonholed into their roles. We've seen PT run big gainers up the middle how many times over his career. Robinson and Ingram look a lot different physically but basically have the same kind of game.

The RBBC works. It gives you depth and extends careers. Our problem is SP has too many tendencies which have revealed themselves over a number of years. Hopefully this situation right now will make Payton realize how much he has misused all of these RB's.

blackangold

Name a team that is successful with the RBBC excluding us.

RBs need to get a feel for the game. Having 2 RBs is good to keep both fresh but we use 4 and they all do different things. PT is the only one that is actually used in every facet of the game. Thats not to say these guys can't do it all, but if your only using them for certain things then why does it matter.

Jack Vegas

Carolina was very successful with Williams/Stewart/Tolbert for several years until they got old and injury prone. Bengals are doing well right now with Bernard and Hill. Patriots get a ton of production out of Ridley/Vereen and whoever else they plug in there. Colts are getting a lot out of Bradshaw/Richardson/Herron. Browns did well with Tate/West/Crowell until their o-line got messed up. Etc.

And you might notice that pretty much every big time college program plays 3 and 4 guys. In fact I would say the number of NFL teams which does not regularly use at least a two-back rotation is very small. and many are using 3 these days.

We take it to the extreme with 4, but really if you think about it the Cadet/Sproles/Bush spot in the rotation really isn't a running back, it's more a receiver position.

Don't get me wrong, I love watching Ingram run. I just don't want him getting 30 carries every game. Haslett ran Deuce into the ground with that crap and probably took 4-5 years off his career. If SP had done the same thing with, say, PT, he'd probably be washed up by now too.