SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10

12-07-2014, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Heard parts of Payton's post game presser.

He was adamant that changes will happen.

I'm eager to see exactly how responds.

Can't cut the kicker this year, he's like 18 for 20.

At the very least, Ryan and the entire defensvie coaching staff need to go. McMahon too.

Foot Stomper · 12-07-2014, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Changes will happen -

He'll pass on 3rd and 2 instead of running.

Don't come in here with that. We ran on 3rd and short and got stuffed. We did come back with a run on 4th and got it. Take shots at the offense as they surely deserve though.

Carolina whipped us in showboating and embarrassing fashion to take a 2 game lead in the all time series.

Playing for draft slotting. No way we need to make the playoffs at 8-8 and lose 15 slots or whatever it is in the draft process. Too bad we can't get a 4th place schedule out of this crap fest of a season.

Play some new blood that actually has some energy. We come out dead as can be with no emotion. Got whipped today by a bunch of no names who had pride.

whybag · 12-07-2014, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Foot Stomper

Playing for draft slotting. No way we need to make the playoffs at 8-8 and lose 15 slots or whatever it is in the draft process. Too bad we can't get a 4th place schedule out of this crap fest of a season.

Please. PayLoo make their money in the later rounds and UDFA. Our track record in the first round is spotty at best. Go for the playoffs and hope the team the routed the Packers or beat the Steelers shows up.

But what I wanna know is what bad juju Ryan brings to teams to knock out half the starting players. Where was the scrappy genius of last year, it's all so bland and predictable this year.

hagan714 · 12-07-2014, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by whybag

But what I wanna know is what bad juju Ryan brings to teams to knock out half the starting players. Where was the scrappy genius of last year, it's all so bland and predictable this year.

look THE NFL figured out this defense last year in Foxboro. Pats laid the blue prints and the others followed suit.

Then you gut your veterans. your leaders. then make no real adjustments to the scheme your running?

blow the entire 2014 defensive draft?

I am still not crazy about 2013 either. with out the Vets Kenny aint looking so good.

2014 has proven to be one of the worse off season by the saints in oh many years in so many ways.

well 2015 is another year and maybe some lesson were learned for some players and they can grow from this.

till then off to the great white white north to roll in the snow with the cubs

nutria · 12-07-2014, 05:04 PM

It's like watching our country, managing the decline...........................both are hard to watch.

The fire to compete consistently is gone.

NOLA54 · 12-07-2014, 05:08 PM

They are their own worse enemy. Starting the game with 2 turnovers is so insane. Giving Carolina that much confidence is so insane. Loosing 4 games at home is insane. Winning on the road against a team with a winning record is insane.

Jeckle and Hyde

Barry from MS · 12-07-2014, 05:30 PM

This was the worse game I've seen in the SP/Brees Era. There's been bad ones, but this one was the worst.

It was like watching a Haslett/Brooks Era game, to be honest. Undisciplined, unmotivated & out-of-sync on both sides of the ball.

And if any game has highlighted the need to address the ability to consistently stop the run to win ball games, this one was it. You cannot let a team run at will throughout a ballgame to win. Period. Figured the SF, Bengals & Baltimore games should have hammered that fact home by now.

blackangold · 12-07-2014, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Heard parts of Payton's post game presser.

He was adamant that changes will happen.

I'm eager to see exactly how responds.

His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes...

The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball.

bobdog86 · 12-07-2014, 06:02 PM

Actions speak louder than words-----we'll see who actually is held accountable/pays the piper. Either Payton does it, or Loomis. It will be interesting to see. If after watching the game tape, Payton's not repulsed enough to the drop the hammer (or make changes) then he needs to pay the piper.

saintsfan1976 · 12-07-2014, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes...

The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball.

I'll bet you a bucket of wings we don't need as many changes as you'd think.

12-07-2014, 04:24 PM	#11
Threaded by Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Heard parts of Payton's post game presser. He was adamant that changes will happen. I'm eager to see exactly how responds. Can't cut the kicker this year, he's like 18 for 20. At the very least, Ryan and the entire defensvie coaching staff need to go. McMahon too. Beastmode likes this.
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12-07-2014, 04:28 PM	#12
Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by dizzle88 Changes will happen - He'll pass on 3rd and 2 instead of running. Don't come in here with that. We ran on 3rd and short and got stuffed. We did come back with a run on 4th and got it. Take shots at the offense as they surely deserve though. Carolina whipped us in showboating and embarrassing fashion to take a 2 game lead in the all time series. Playing for draft slotting. No way we need to make the playoffs at 8-8 and lose 15 slots or whatever it is in the draft process. Too bad we can't get a 4th place schedule out of this crap fest of a season. Play some new blood that actually has some energy. We come out dead as can be with no emotion. Got whipped today by a bunch of no names who had pride. MarchingOn likes this.

12-07-2014, 04:41 PM	#13
whybag 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by Foot Stomper Playing for draft slotting. No way we need to make the playoffs at 8-8 and lose 15 slots or whatever it is in the draft process. Too bad we can't get a 4th place schedule out of this crap fest of a season. Please. PayLoo make their money in the later rounds and UDFA. Our track record in the first round is spotty at best. Go for the playoffs and hope the team the routed the Packers or beat the Steelers shows up. But what I wanna know is what bad juju Ryan brings to teams to knock out half the starting players. Where was the scrappy genius of last year, it's all so bland and predictable this year.
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12-07-2014, 04:53 PM	#14
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by whybag But what I wanna know is what bad juju Ryan brings to teams to knock out half the starting players. Where was the scrappy genius of last year, it's all so bland and predictable this year. look THE NFL figured out this defense last year in Foxboro. Pats laid the blue prints and the others followed suit. Then you gut your veterans. your leaders. then make no real adjustments to the scheme your running? blow the entire 2014 defensive draft? I am still not crazy about 2013 either. with out the Vets Kenny aint looking so good. 2014 has proven to be one of the worse off season by the saints in oh many years in so many ways. well 2015 is another year and maybe some lesson were learned for some players and they can grow from this. till then off to the great white white north to roll in the snow with the cubs saintsfan1976 and MarchingOn like this.
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nutria Sac-A-Lait Join Date: May 2006 Location: Prairieville, LA Posts: 262	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 It's like watching our country, managing the decline...........................both are hard to watch. The fire to compete consistently is gone. MarchingOn likes this.

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12-07-2014, 05:08 PM	#16
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 They are their own worse enemy. Starting the game with 2 turnovers is so insane. Giving Carolina that much confidence is so insane. Loosing 4 games at home is insane. Winning on the road against a team with a winning record is insane. Jeckle and Hyde

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 *This* was the worse game I've seen in the SP/Brees Era. There's been bad ones, but this one was the worst. It was like watching a Haslett/Brooks Era game, to be honest. Undisciplined, unmotivated & out-of-sync on both sides of the ball. And if any game has highlighted the need to address the ability to consistently stop the run to win ball games, this one was it. You cannot let a team run at will throughout a ballgame to win. Period. Figured the SF, Bengals & Baltimore games should have hammered that fact home by now. MarchingOn likes this.
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12-07-2014, 05:55 PM	#18
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Heard parts of Payton's post game presser. He was adamant that changes will happen. I'm eager to see exactly how responds. His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes... The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball. halloween 65, bobdog86 and brees84 like this.

12-07-2014, 06:02 PM	#19
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,485	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Actions speak louder than words-----we'll see who actually is held accountable/pays the piper. Either Payton does it, or Loomis. It will be interesting to see. If after watching the game tape, Payton's not repulsed enough to the drop the hammer (or make changes) then he needs to pay the piper.

12-07-2014, 06:12 PM	#20
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by blackangold His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes... The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball. I'll bet you a bucket of wings we don't need as many changes as you'd think. captainshawn likes this.

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