Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost'

hagan714 · 12-28-2014, 07:10 AM

i am starting to believe this was the front office pick myself. Rob had his input and sp had his input and the front office handed in the card. this might be a player personnel pick and by hell and high water he aint seeing the field.

yep gotta an unofficial response on this topic. 90+% of the picks are coach driven with the saints. but ever now and then the front office does go out and gets the player it wants encase of a three way tie.

SJB was and still is a project. at times he defends like a WR trying to prevent an interception. gives up the wrong positioning. but in no way can he be this bad that street walkers are playing and he is in street clothes.

there is more to this than they are saying.

If there is not more to this then heads in the scouting department need to roll along with whoever made this pick. this would rank up their with some of the worse picks the saints have ever made. they better not be trying to make a FS out him. Because i think Warren has the developmental roll player just about sewn up.

i believe we are not getting the whole story here.

spkb25 · 12-28-2014, 09:09 AM

Kid is what, 22? That's a lot to throw at someone so young, but what he needs to do is focus on himself. Looks like this should make him hungry and make him want to work on his technique.

Hey can we convert him back to a wideout? He's huge, I like big wideouts.

spkb25 · 12-28-2014, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i am starting to believe this was the front office pick myself. Rob had his input and sp had his input and the front office handed in the card. this might be a player personnel pick and by hell and high water he aint seeing the field.

yep gotta an unofficial response on this topic. 90+% of the picks are coach driven with the saints. but ever now and then the front office does go out and gets the player it wants encase of a three way tie.

SJB was and still is a project. at times he defends like a WR trying to prevent an interception. gives up the wrong positioning. but in no way can he be this bad that street walkers are playing and he is in street clothes.

there is more to this than they are saying.

If there is not more to this then heads in the scouting department need to roll along with whoever made this pick. this would rank up their with some of the worse picks the saints have ever made. they better not be trying to make a FS out him. Because i think Warren has the developmental roll player just about sewn up.

i believe we are not getting the whole story here.

Has happened to me in the corporate world. Wouldn't be surprised. If the person immediately managing you didn't want you, but the people above did, look out. You end up in a silent power struggle you knew nothing about and you feel lost, lmao!

brees84 · 12-28-2014, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Kid is what, 22? That's a lot to throw at someone so young, but what he needs to do is focus on himself. Looks like this should make him hungry and make him want to work on his technique.

Hey can we convert him back to a wideout? He's huge, I like big wideouts.

He is 24. He will be 25 when next season starts. He needs playing time.

spkb25 · 12-28-2014, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by brees84

He is 24. He will be 25 when next season starts. He needs playing time.

still young, but yeah not normal 22 for rook

nola_swammi · 12-28-2014, 01:05 PM

I like Sean Payton as coach but what a dayum ego! Why not make him active for the last game? I bet they try to give Brees his 300 yds to get to 5000

blackangold · 12-31-2014, 09:00 AM

Now we see Corey White with almost identical comments regarding his position and future:
New Orleans Saints' uncertainty on defense has Corey White feeling in limbo | NOLA.com

Now we are seeing a trend, how in the world is communication of this type being missed? How do these guys not know the plan so they can work on different techniques? ... WOW

I hope this was just an issue with the DB coach and not a broader view of Payton's organization.

SloMotion · 12-31-2014, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

... how in the world is communication of this type being missed? ...

It's not. It's the individual players. You don't get to be a Superbowl-winning head coach by forgetting to inform players ... just sayin',

.

Danno · 12-31-2014, 05:39 PM

My guess is if you aren't in the loop, you aren't in their plans.

K Major · 12-31-2014, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

He is 24. He will be 25 when next season starts. He needs playing time.

No doubt. If this young man is not more involved with the secondary this off season and training camp, its time to cut bait and move on.

12-28-2014, 07:10 AM	#41
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' i am starting to believe this was the front office pick myself. Rob had his input and sp had his input and the front office handed in the card. this might be a player personnel pick and by hell and high water he aint seeing the field. yep gotta an unofficial response on this topic. 90+% of the picks are coach driven with the saints. but ever now and then the front office does go out and gets the player it wants encase of a three way tie. SJB was and still is a project. at times he defends like a WR trying to prevent an interception. gives up the wrong positioning. but in no way can he be this bad that street walkers are playing and he is in street clothes. there is more to this than they are saying. If there is not more to this then heads in the scouting department need to roll along with whoever made this pick. this would rank up their with some of the worse picks the saints have ever made. they better not be trying to make a FS out him. Because i think Warren has the developmental roll player just about sewn up. i believe we are not getting the whole story here. Barry from MS and SloMotion like this.
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12-28-2014, 09:09 AM	#42
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Kid is what, 22? That's a lot to throw at someone so young, but what he needs to do is focus on himself. Looks like this should make him hungry and make him want to work on his technique. Hey can we convert him back to a wideout? He's huge, I like big wideouts.

12-28-2014, 09:11 AM	#43
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by hagan714 i am starting to believe this was the front office pick myself. Rob had his input and sp had his input and the front office handed in the card. this might be a player personnel pick and by hell and high water he aint seeing the field. yep gotta an unofficial response on this topic. 90+% of the picks are coach driven with the saints. but ever now and then the front office does go out and gets the player it wants encase of a three way tie. SJB was and still is a project. at times he defends like a WR trying to prevent an interception. gives up the wrong positioning. but in no way can he be this bad that street walkers are playing and he is in street clothes. there is more to this than they are saying. If there is not more to this then heads in the scouting department need to roll along with whoever made this pick. this would rank up their with some of the worse picks the saints have ever made. they better not be trying to make a FS out him. Because i think Warren has the developmental roll player just about sewn up. i believe we are not getting the whole story here. Has happened to me in the corporate world. Wouldn't be surprised. If the person immediately managing you didn't want you, but the people above did, look out. You end up in a silent power struggle you knew nothing about and you feel lost, lmao! neugey, hagan714, Barry from MS and 1 others like this.

12-28-2014, 09:43 AM	#44
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by brees84 He is 24. He will be 25 when next season starts. He needs playing time. still young, but yeah not normal 22 for rook

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12-28-2014, 01:05 PM	#46
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