Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost'

Danno · 12-26-2014, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I don't know what to think here!!
1. Either he's a suprize super-star waiting to be unvailed next season.
2. Slower than expected progess like JR. did
3. Secondary coach might not know how to get him there.(I'm leaning hard this way)
4. No talent what to speak of(I don't think this, kid has tools)

Or perhaps he doesn't know where to be and when, and is so raw he hasn't master CB techniques, which are numerous.

IIRC CB is one of the hardest positions to master technique wise in the NFL along with QB and WR.

I'm just hoping that the talent is there, he just happened to be much more raw than the coaches originally thought.

halloween 65 · 12-26-2014, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Or perhaps he doesn't know where to be and when, and is so raw he hasn't master CB techniques, which are numerous.

IIRC CB is one of the hardest positions to master technique wise in the NFL along with QB and WR.

I'm just hoping that the talent is there, he just happened to be much more raw than the coaches originally thought.

Could at least get a look at him in man-to-man.I'm still leaning on the secondary coach.Scheme, I see your point.

Jack Vegas · 12-26-2014, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Or perhaps he doesn't know where to be and when, and is so raw he hasn't master CB techniques, which are numerous.

IIRC CB is one of the hardest positions to master technique wise in the NFL along with QB and WR.

I'm just hoping that the talent is there, he just happened to be much more raw than the coaches originally thought.

I don't know, PT sat most of his rookie season even though he was obviously a better option than Bush, who stunk between the tackles and Stecker who was old and breaking down. The one game he got substantial playing time he killed it.

I think what happens is the coaches set up a "plan" for young guys and don't care to deviate from it.

K Major · 12-26-2014, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Or perhaps he doesn't know where to be and when, and is so raw he hasn't master CB techniques, which are numerous.

SJB football IQ must be super low not to see the field. It this is accurate, quite disappointing especially to say where he was drafted.

Rell&Gold · 12-27-2014, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Or perhaps he doesn't know where to be and when, and is so raw he hasn't master CB techniques, which are numerous.

IIRC CB is one of the hardest positions to master technique wise in the NFL along with QB and WR.

I'm just hoping that the talent is there, he just happened to be much more raw than the coaches originally thought.

None of our cb's have mastered technique I see breakdowns in everybody's technique week out consistently especially when it comes to tracking the ball and getting their head around, it wouldn't hurt to see where he's stands in comparison this Sunday to those two neither Frederick or Dixon are ready for the #2 spot if you ask me (nobody asked me)

dizzle88 · 12-27-2014, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

None of our cb's have mastered technique I see breakdowns in everybody's technique week out consistently especially when it comes to tracking the ball and getting their head around, it wouldn't hurt to see where he's stands in comparison this Sunday to those two neither Frederick or Dixon are ready for the #2 spot if you ask me (nobody asked me)

Our DB's don't need to turn to locate the ball, they are already 5 steps behind the receiver when it arrives lol.

12-26-2014, 03:10 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by halloween 65 I don't know what to think here!! 1. Either he's a suprize super-star waiting to be unvailed next season. 2. Slower than expected progess like JR. did 3. Secondary coach might not know how to get him there.(I'm leaning hard this way) 4. No talent what to speak of(I don't think this, kid has tools) Or perhaps he doesn't know where to be and when, and is so raw he hasn't master CB techniques, which are numerous. IIRC CB is one of the hardest positions to master technique wise in the NFL along with QB and WR. I'm just hoping that the talent is there, he just happened to be much more raw than the coaches originally thought. halloween 65 and SloMotion like this.

12-26-2014, 03:38 PM	#3
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by Danno Or perhaps he doesn't know where to be and when, and is so raw he hasn't master CB techniques, which are numerous. IIRC CB is one of the hardest positions to master technique wise in the NFL along with QB and WR. I'm just hoping that the talent is there, he just happened to be much more raw than the coaches originally thought. I don't know, PT sat most of his rookie season even though he was obviously a better option than Bush, who stunk between the tackles and Stecker who was old and breaking down. The one game he got substantial playing time he killed it. I think what happens is the coaches set up a "plan" for young guys and don't care to deviate from it.
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12-26-2014, 04:03 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by Danno Or perhaps he doesn't know where to be and when, and is so raw he hasn't master CB techniques, which are numerous. SJB football IQ must be super low not to see the field. It this is accurate, quite disappointing especially to say where he was drafted.

12-27-2014, 02:23 PM	#5
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by Danno Or perhaps he doesn't know where to be and when, and is so raw he hasn't master CB techniques, which are numerous. IIRC CB is one of the hardest positions to master technique wise in the NFL along with QB and WR. I'm just hoping that the talent is there, he just happened to be much more raw than the coaches originally thought. None of our cb's have mastered technique I see breakdowns in everybody's technique week out consistently especially when it comes to tracking the ball and getting their head around, it wouldn't hurt to see where he's stands in comparison this Sunday to those two neither Frederick or Dixon are ready for the #2 spot if you ask me (nobody asked me) brees84 likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by Rell&Gold None of our cb's have mastered technique I see breakdowns in everybody's technique week out consistently especially when it comes to tracking the ball and getting their head around, it wouldn't hurt to see where he's stands in comparison this Sunday to those two neither Frederick or Dixon are ready for the #2 spot if you ask me (nobody asked me) Our DB's don't need to turn to locate the ball, they are already 5 steps behind the receiver when it arrives lol.

12-26-2014, 03:21 PM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by Danno Or perhaps he doesn't know where to be and when, and is so raw he hasn't master CB techniques, which are numerous. IIRC CB is one of the hardest positions to master technique wise in the NFL along with QB and WR. I'm just hoping that the talent is there, he just happened to be much more raw than the coaches originally thought. Could at least get a look at him in man-to-man.I'm still leaning on the secondary coach.Scheme, I see your point.

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